Qr Trainee Network Controller

 
  emmvee Beginner

Hey there

I was a TC4 controller at QR as recently as May before I took up a job over in Perth as a train controller. Generally it's six months of training - so learning all the rules and procedures. There are several exams over the course and the pass mark for each exam is 90 percent. Sounds scary but is in fact easy. Each safeworking exam (RCS, DTC, Staff and Ticket) has a practical component as well. Once you've completed your six months of training they put you on the board (normally the west board if you're in Townsville). Not sure what they do in Brisbane. You'll have a mentor for about 6 to 10 weeks before being assessed and then you can work on your own. That's when you'll gain your TC2 and you'll get your Cert IV (this is based on my time in Townsville Control). While you're on the board being mentored you'll be paid as a TC1 I think. But once you're on the board itself and doing it alone you'll get paid at the rate of the board. The West is a TC4 board for example, so you'll get paid TC4 rate. The only time you get paid TC2 is if you're on training and not working in a link which is TC4 or above. But as a starter you won't be doing any TC5 boards anyway. Suburban and North boards in Townsville are also TC4. Suburban is pretty easy now, especially since there is no Nickel running any more and the Zinc is done by trucks. So it's a piece of piss. North board is busy during the day with all the track gangs but the easist board in the control room of a night time. South boards are for the experienced controllers so you won't have to worry about them for at least 5 years. Once again, this is based on Townsville, not Brisbane. If you need any more information I'd love to be of assistance.
Thanks very much for the reply and appreciate the info.

Am I right in understanding that a "board" relates to a certain section of the rail corridor that you are responsible for?  The more complicated the board then determines whether its a TC2, TC3 etc?

I'm guessing that based on your experience determines what boards you can operate and that once you're solo you having TC2 boards.

The positions are in Brisbane, so I'm not sure how different things are there, but the information is very helpful in understanding how the pay grades work.  The money isn't the issue as I'd be taking a pay cut for any new job that I have to learn from scratch.

How's a typical roster constructed - a few earlies, afternoons and nights?  

The exams and pass rate are all good - I'm from an environment that has very similar expectations - so I'm used to having to hit the books for initial, bi-annual and annual re-certifications.  Still break into a sweat at the thought of exams and skills assessments but at least it keeps you fresh.
jetaus
Yeah generally the boards with multiple safeworking systems involved, or higher amount of rail traffic/track gangs are graded higher than those with lesser workload. Which makes sense of course. With Brisbane, I know the Controllers running the city suburban trains are TC5 I believe. Whereas those who control say, the south west corridor are TC2 or TC3. Something like that. Don't quote me but I think I'm right in saying that. And you may be qualified as a TC2 but that doesn't restrict you to working TC2 boards only. You may become board competent in any board, provided you feel comfortable and management feel comfortable putting you there.

You get paid the rate at which the board pays. The TC2 classification just means that when you're not working the board you will be getting a TC2 rate. For example, when you're on training or aren't rostered on the board. Generally, when you start out too, not being assigned to a board allows for the person rostering to put you any where they please to fill the gaps in the roster. So it can be pretty rough to begin with in terms of knowing when you're working. Generally those with a higher level than you will have first bite at the weekend work. So if there's a weekend available on a TC4 board and there's a TC4 and a TC2 available, the TC4 will pick up the weekend. However, I think if it's a TC2 board the TC2 will have first crack at it because it's their classification level and they get preference. That's how it worked in Townsville anyway.

Shifts are 8.5 hours. Starting at 4 hour intervals around the clock. So midnight, 4am, 8am, midday, 4pm, 8pm. You get half an hour break and half an hour handover time at the end of your shift. But normally the handover is completed in 5 or 10 minutes so you're getting 20 minutes for free. Once again though, I can't say with absolute certainty Brisbane follow the same roster set up as we had in Townsville. I got a friend that works in Brisbane I can ask if you want.

Have you actually secured the job yet?

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  jetaus Beginner

Yeah generally the boards with multiple safeworking systems involved, or higher amount of rail traffic/track gangs are graded higher than those with lesser workload. Which makes sense of course. With Brisbane, I know the Controllers running the city suburban trains are TC5 I believe. Whereas those who control say, the south west corridor are TC2 or TC3. Something like that. Don't quote me but I think I'm right in saying that. And you may be qualified as a TC2 but that doesn't restrict you to working TC2 boards only. You may become board competent in any board, provided you feel comfortable and management feel comfortable putting you there.

You get paid the rate at which the board pays. The TC2 classification just means that when you're not working the board you will be getting a TC2 rate. For example, when you're on training or aren't rostered on the board. Generally, when you start out too, not being assigned to a board allows for the person rostering to put you any where they please to fill the gaps in the roster. So it can be pretty rough to begin with in terms of knowing when you're working. Generally those with a higher level than you will have first bite at the weekend work. So if there's a weekend available on a TC4 board and there's a TC4 and a TC2 available, the TC4 will pick up the weekend. However, I think if it's a TC2 board the TC2 will have first crack at it because it's their classification level and they get preference. That's how it worked in Townsville anyway.
emmvee

Thanks for all the info - helps to understand how it works.  I'm sure they'll run through it all at the info session, but nice to have a bit of a better understanding beforehand.  

Shifts are 8.5 hours. Starting at 4 hour intervals around the clock. So midnight, 4am, 8am, midday, 4pm, 8pm. You get half an hour break and half an hour handover time at the end of your shift. But normally the handover is completed in 5 or 10 minutes so you're getting 20 minutes for free. Once again though, I can't say with absolute certainty Brisbane follow the same roster set up as we had in Townsville. I got a friend that works in Brisbane I can ask if you want. Have you actually secured the job yet?
emmvee

Cool - that helps a lot.  No where near securing a job - only through the first phase and onto the next phase which is a group assessment and info session - so its very early stages at the moment.  I'm just curious as there isn't a whole lot of info online and the info pack has some good information in it but its not extensive - again probably saving that for the info session.
  Rookie Beginner

Hi all. I have gotten through to the panel interview stage.

Is there anything out of the ordinary that they might throw at me here or just typical behavioral, work related, experience questions.

What stages could I expect after this in the rwcruitment process?  Surely just reference checks/medicals etc?  Surely not any more interviews/testing?
  emmvee Beginner

Hi all. I have gotten through to the panel interview stage.

Is there anything out of the ordinary that they might throw at me here or just typical behavioral, work related, experience questions.

What stages could I expect after this in the rwcruitment process?  Surely just reference checks/medicals etc?  Surely not any more interviews/testing?
Rookie
Yeah panel interview will be the last of the interviews/testing. Just the medical to go and you're in the clear.

Questions will revolve around the values and behaviours... with safety being the most important for obvious reasons. They'll basically ask about your previous experience and ask you for situations where you've demonstrated and effectively applied things like safety, decision making, communication in your previous lines of work. Come prepared and the job is yours.

Best of luck.
  Rookie Beginner

Hi all. I have gotten through to the panel interview stage.

Is there anything out of the ordinary that they might throw at me here or just typical behavioral, work related, experience questions.

What stages could I expect after this in the rwcruitment process?  Surely just reference checks/medicals etc?  Surely not any more interviews/testing?
Yeah panel interview will be the last of the interviews/testing. Just the medical to go and you're in the clear.

Questions will revolve around the values and behaviours... with safety being the most important for obvious reasons. They'll basically ask about your previous experience and ask you for situations where you've demonstrated and effectively applied things like safety, decision making, communication in your previous lines of work. Come prepared and the job is yours.

Best of luck.

thanks for the reply.  
emmvee
Thanks for the reply.

One more question. How sort of pay would someone be looking at once they start working on a board as a TC2.

They said in the interview around $70,000 plus penalties etc etc. how much is an average gross pay for a TC2 after allowances and penalties are added??

Thanks.
  emmvee Beginner

Hi all. I have gotten through to the panel interview stage.

Is there anything out of the ordinary that they might throw at me here or just typical behavioral, work related, experience questions.

What stages could I expect after this in the rwcruitment process?  Surely just reference checks/medicals etc?  Surely not any more interviews/testing?
Yeah panel interview will be the last of the interviews/testing. Just the medical to go and you're in the clear.

Questions will revolve around the values and behaviours... with safety being the most important for obvious reasons. They'll basically ask about your previous experience and ask you for situations where you've demonstrated and effectively applied things like safety, decision making, communication in your previous lines of work. Come prepared and the job is yours.

Best of luck.

thanks for the reply.  
Thanks for the reply.

One more question. How sort of pay would someone be looking at once they start working on a board as a TC2.

They said in the interview around $70,000 plus penalties etc etc. how much is an average gross pay for a TC2 after allowances and penalties are added??

Thanks.




On TC2, the base is about 100K from memory with the new CBA. Pretty decent pay. Throw in overtime and some of the controllers were making upward of 120K
Rookie
  Random_Rubik Beginner

Was anyone successful with the last intake?

It appears they are hiring again for the same position.
  Omie Beginner

I applied for this latest intake.
It closed on the 3rd of March and still haven't heard anything back.
On the website it states: Current status: Selection Process - In Progress
Do you think I've been subtly rejected or am I just being to anxious/impatient?
  Jax25 Beginner

Have they called for trainee's this year? I've kept my eyes open for this one but haven't seen any internally?
  Omie Beginner

Have they called for trainee's this year? I've kept my eyes open for this one but haven't seen any internally?
Jax25
The position never said trainee's specifically but did say Network Control Officer TC2.

Also this was on the public QR page not only internally. In the position title they did not say specifically that they wanted already trained qualified Network Controllers.

The end application date was the 3rd of March.
  Jax25 Beginner

Ahh I don't know how to reply directly to your last comment, thanks for the Info Omie, if they were interested in trainees you think they would have advertised for trainees, im dying to get out of resurfacing and into a more challenging job!
Do u have any prior experience in the railway? Apologies if you stated so above.
  Random_Rubik Beginner

Ahh I don't know how to reply directly to your last comment, thanks for the Info Omie, if they were interested in trainees you think they would have advertised for trainees, im dying to get out of resurfacing and into a more challenging job!
Do u have any prior experience in the railway? Apologies if you stated so above.
Jax25
Good evening all,

I have been routinely seeking a Network Controller position within QLD Rail. From my knowledge there has only been 3 external opportunites. One in 2014, one last year and one this year.

Last year, it was mentioned in the last interview I did for the position that if I was unsuccessful I could reapply for the intake this year. I was unsuccessful in 2016 and reapplied in April this year. Again unsuccessful I pursued feedback and it was explained to me that they were seeking people with prior experience/qualifications.

Also for a point of reference I managed to get some information during the recruiting process. Last year there was roughly over 800 applications and by the final panel interviews they had it reduced to 20. Unfortunately out of the 20, we were applying for 11 spots on the intake. It is fiercely competitive. Highly recommend improving your aptitude, psychometric testing and hand eye co-ordination. Yes this includes Playstation.

Hope this information is helpful.

Regards, Mr Rubik.
  Jax25 Beginner

Thanks Rubik

It's odd that they say they want already qualified people, I'm trained in RCS and DTC with PO1 and PO2 yet a silly little online test can detmine your future, I guess we just keep applying :s

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