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  M636C Minister for Railways

I am a bit concerned by statements on the Powerline blog regarding the standard gauge versions of the cars.

Powerline appear to be under a misapprehension regarding the use of the "VR" lettering on these cars.

They appear to be producing models with "Second" lettering without the "VR" and models with "Economy" lettering with "VR".

Both of these are correct but they appear to be confused about the dates.

The cars entered service with "Second" class lettering on 15 April 1962 without "VR" lettering.

Photos on Weston Langford's site confirm this:

http://www.westonlangford.com/images/photo/101441/ shows the VAC on 6 April on trial

http://www.westonlangford.com/images/photo/101455/ shows much of the train near Bethungra

Enlarging these shots clearly show the lack of VR lettering and the name "Wimmera" on the buffet car.

I met the train in Sydney on 15 April and I clearly remember the name "Wimmera" on the buffet.

I believe the "VR" lettering appeared fairly quickly on the cars in service, certainly by 1963/64.

The change to "Economy" lettering occurred from January 1970, so the cars ran for up to eight years with "Second" and "VR"

This doesn't show up on the most popular VR websites simply because most of the photographs are post 1970.

In NSW, the word "Economy" was not applied if the car had only Economy seating, and at some time this change occurred to the VFS and VFX cars. So they had only the "VR" lettering and the car number.

In 1983, with the change to the title "V/Line" the VR lettering was deleted from the Spirit of Progress cars which continued to be painted blue and gold until the Sydney trains were merged as the "Melbourne and Sydney Expresses in 1987.

So VFS and VFX cars (and VFK cars) appeared in blue and gold with only the car (booking) number lettering above the top "gold" stripe between 1983 and 1987 (and some for some time on the merged trains post 1987). Not all cars had this final version before being painted Tangerine, of course. Powerline made this "no lettering" version in the 1990s.

Further information can be found in my articles on the "Spirit of Progress Cars" in:
AMRM #172 page 43 (Part 1)
AMRM #173 page 47 (Part 2)
AMRM #182 page 53 (Part 3)

and "The Victorian Railways S cars" covering the red and silver cars in AMRM 194 page 32.

I hope this clarifies the periods the vehicles ran with "VR" and "Second" and "Economy" lettering.

M636C

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  TheMeddlingMonk Deputy Commissioner

Location: The Time Vortex near Melbourne, Australia
I am a bit concerned by statements on the Powerline blog regarding the standard gauge versions of the cars.
M636C
Best to email them and let them know.

info.powerline@powerline.com.au

I have had no problems contacting them over the WCR cars.
  M636C Minister for Railways

I am a bit concerned by statements on the Powerline blog regarding the standard gauge versions of the cars.
Best to email them and let them know.

info.powerline@powerline.com.au

I have had no problems contacting them over the WCR cars.
TheMeddlingMonk
I have already sent them a brief message using the function on their website...

I didn't expand on the River names on the buffet cars. Certainly, these were covered by "Spirit of Progress"
nameplates fairly soon after the train entered service. I'm pretty sure that the "VR" lettering was in place by then.
The use of the train name was consistent with NSW practice, with train names on the "Intercapital Daylight" and "Southern Aurora", although names on internal trains were disappearing by 1962. It is possible that the VR lettering was added so that the ownership of cars being maintained in NSW was clear (for the accountants).

M636C
  M636C Minister for Railways

Weston Langford's site can be searched by name.
I put in "Spirit of Progress" and got...

http://westonlangford.com/images/photo/102069/

Note the date of 14 December 1962.

The whole train has "VR" lettering and the Buffet appears to have the "Spirit of Progress" name in place of the car name.
This matches my recollection that the VR lettering appeared in 1962.

And I let Ian Comport know first...

M636C
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
"News update on the 's' cars. The Victorian 'S' Cars are still in production. There were a few minor hiccups after the Chinese New year but I am happy to say these have all be resolved. We are expecting production samples shortly and stated previously delivery may take place in batches." - 6pm 15/2/2017 https://www.facebook.com/PowerlineModels
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


"A samples of the S car, Spirit of Progress, 1-VFX. There are a few minor errors to fix. The wrong corridor has been fitted for example. More samples are expected shortly with production expected to leave China not long after the next lot of samples.". - more pics at https://www.facebook.com/PowerlineModels/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


More sample pics and ETA info at https://www.facebook.com/PowerlineModels/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
  Nijok Beginner

Hi
Just to let you that the new Powerline S cars are in Australia.  Train World had arranged an air shipment of the individual cars.  These wonderful detailed cars were shown and were for sale at the Perth Model Railway Exhibition over our just completed long week-end.  I understand Powerline expect their container to arrive later this month.
Cheers
  themetptc Train Controller

Location: Ballarat
Received my S cars today. Very good, nicely detailed. Well done Powerline for a great carriage model. Just need to compliment the good work done with the S cars with some Z cars now....please!
Sim
  VN18 Junior Train Controller

Location: Central Highlands
I received my Powerline S type cars today. While they are far better than the old ones and sport good detailed underfloors... I feel it's sadly one step forward and two back. Many printing errors and while they may be only small the price tag is not. After the long wait I'm a little disappointed.
  M636C Minister for Railways

I received my Powerline S type cars today. While they are far better than the old ones and sport good detailed underfloors... I feel it's sadly one step forward and two back. Many printing errors and while they may be only small the price tag is not. After the long wait I'm a little disappointed.
VN18
Which colour scheme did you get and what are the specific errors?

Peter
  MalMac515 Station Master

Location: Bribie Island
I received my Powerline S type cars today. While they are far better than the old ones and sport good detailed underfloors... I feel it's sadly one step forward and two back. Many printing errors and while they may be only small the price tag is not. After the long wait I'm a little disappointed.
VN18
I received four of the SG ones and totally agree with your comments and I am very disappointed
  brissim Chief Train Controller

I received my Powerline S type cars today. While they are far better than the old ones and sport good detailed underfloors... I feel it's sadly one step forward and two back. Many printing errors and while they may be only small the price tag is not. After the long wait I'm a little disappointed.
I received four of the SG ones and totally agree with your comments and I am very disappointed
MalMac515
And so again - what specifically are the errors?

Tony
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


Powerline have posted samples and info for their next project, the VR "Z" passenger carriages. https://www.facebook.com/PowerlineModels/
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Excellent news. Bring on the painted samples.

Looking forward to seeing the order forms too.

Regards

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