SCT Announces Commencement of Dedicated Melbourne to Brisbane Freight Services

 
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Both BM9 and MB9 with loco issues at Moss Vale today. MB9 running 4 hrs late.
bingley hall
$CT sure can't take a trick with their locos, what with the number of stalls/failures on the Melbourne-Perth route.

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  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
Both BM9 and MB9 with loco issues at Moss Vale today. MB9 running 4 hrs late.
$CT sure can't take a trick with their locos, what with the number of stalls/failures on the Melbourne-Perth route.
greasyrhys

Sometimes you make your own luck.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Hi Typhon,   I take it from your post that you feel the current SCT motive power problems are of the companies own making.  Is that related to the type of locos they procured, insufficient power to cover the task thereby not releasing them for maintenance or a combination.   Interested to know.   Certainly the SCT fleet appear very intensely utilized!!!
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Hi Typhon,   I take it from your post that you feel the current SCT motive power problems are of the companies own making.  Is that related to the type of locos they procured, insufficient power to cover the task thereby not releasing them for maintenance or a combination.   Interested to know.   Certainly the SCT fleet appear very intensely utilized!!!
Trainplanner

Should SCT consider breaking up their trains on the east west route as they are now so long and there is no real capacity to lengthen further.  The north/south traffic is not as large so why the issue?

SCT are now running a daily down and up to Horsham which was previously a down and following day up so the locos are doing a lot of miles and their traffic is increasing which is a good sign.

Inland rail is going to really help SCT which is good news but is Parkes going to be on the inland route?
  hbedriver Junior Train Controller

You keep hearing things about the SCT fleet and management processes. One remark you ignore, more and you start to wonder.

Locos need some maintenance if they are to run reliably, and those SCT class have been running enormous mileages for years. Now with the extra work, and despite the CSR/BK additions, it seems that the deferred maintenance is starting to catch up with them. Drivers claim to be ignored, to the point that when they suggest some improvement or better way to do things, perhaps report a loco showing signs of failing, they go and do the opposite to prove who is running things.

The MB9/BM9 trains need locos for four days; multiply that by four trains weekly and you soon realise you need 16 days of locos per week, assuming one loco only per train; more and the numbers change accordingly. Essentially if they double-head all trains they need the equivalent of 5 locos to run that service, and they don't seem to have been buying any more lately. And that's without any in maintenance, CCO, etc.

Their business seems to be doing well, although reports that major customers are threatening to walk if reliability doesn't improve.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Thanks for the background.   And its rare that they hire motive power these days.   Short term hire of a couple of units would surely be cost effective in them being able to ensure scheduled maintenance is current.  Yes it comes at a cost but having failures enroute and having to rescue the units then repair them as well as horrendous disruption to customers would far outweigh a few days loco hire!!!
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Could the reliability be also in part due to the tasks being asked from the locos?  

Are the trains too long and heavy?
  DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

Thanks for the background.   And its rare that they hire motive power these days.   Short term hire of a couple of units would surely be cost effective in them being able to ensure scheduled maintenance is current.  Yes it comes at a cost but having failures enroute and having to rescue the units then repair them as well as horrendous disruption to customers would far outweigh a few days loco hire!!!
Trainplanner
The cost might be difficult part.  Redundancies at SCT indicate that all is not going so well.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QR
4BM9 out of Bromelton tonight **may** be a non starter, depending of exactly where at Bromelton is the bridge that is wonky. It has forced the XPT onto buses and the AK track inspection cars and their 47 class locos that went north today are stuck at Greenbank on their southbound stage, according to Facebook TDU. That suggests the closure was not planned as otherwise they would not have marooned the AK cars?
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide
4BM9 out of Bromelton tonight **may** be a non starter, depending of exactly where at Bromelton is the bridge that is wonky. It has forced the XPT onto buses and the AK track inspection cars and their 47 class locos that went north today are stuck at Greenbank on their southbound stage, according to Facebook TDU. That suggests the closure was not planned as otherwise they would not have marooned the AK cars?
petan
Cancelled according to the train notices
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
4BM9 out of Bromelton tonight **may** be a non starter, depending of exactly where at Bromelton is the bridge that is wonky. It has forced the XPT onto buses and the AK track inspection cars and their 47 class locos that went north today are stuck at Greenbank on their southbound stage, according to Facebook TDU. That suggests the closure was not planned as otherwise they would not have marooned the AK cars?
petan

There was a bridge it yesterday in Brisbane which stopped trains for a few hours could be related?
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QR
4BM9 out of Bromelton tonight **may** be a non starter, depending of exactly where at Bromelton is the bridge that is wonky. It has forced the XPT onto buses and the AK track inspection cars and their 47 class locos that went north today are stuck at Greenbank on their southbound stage, according to Facebook TDU. That suggests the closure was not planned as otherwise they would not have marooned the AK cars?
There was a bridge it yesterday in Brisbane which stopped trains for a few hours could be related?
x31
Bromelton, 61 km from South Brisbane, is near Beaudesert not Brisbane.
  cuthbert Train Controller

I saw a picture of the north bound train with a helper, in the form of a CEY, SSR loco on the rear at Cockle Creek. How far north did this loco assist the train?
  tazzer96 Assistant Commissioner

I saw a picture of the north bound train with a helper, in the form of a CEY, SSR loco on the rear at Cockle Creek. How far north did this loco assist the train?
cuthbert
Was it online and providing power?   I don't believe this is a location which allows banking.  And isn't a section which reequires it.    Could be a transfer
  trainguy84 Locomotive Driver

Hi

Train stalled and needed a helping hand to get going again. I hear it went as far as Broadmeadows.
  cuthbert Train Controller

Hi

Train stalled and needed a helping hand to get going again. I hear it went as far as Broadmeadows.
trainguy84

You must be from Victoria, because "Broadmeadows" is in Victoria. Laughing

To be fair to Victorians, the place north of Sydney with a very similar name is Broadmeadow, just for the record.

Thanks for the answer as to where the CEY dropped off the back. It would not have been a cheap exercise for SCT I'm guessing, but good to see help is available to the other operators in times of need!
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: On a freight train to crazy town
Hi

Train stalled and needed a helping hand to get going again. I hear it went as far as Broadmeadows.

.......

Thanks for the answer as to where the CEY dropped off the back. It would not have been a cheap exercise for SCT I'm guessing, but good to see help is available to the other operators in times of need!
cuthbert
It was also good  fortune. The CEY was already pathed for a light engine move from Enfield to Cardiff and Port Waratah and just happened to be running late.
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
North bound SCT through Cardiff at 15:00 today. 2 SCTs, fuel tender, 11 vans, 2 five packs with containers, 3 80' flats with a container in the middle of each, then 2 more vans.
  2LaGrange Train Controller

No cost to SCT or any operator generally when a train fails. It is a network issue when a train fails and blocks network and as such the network operator can instruct any following train to assist a failed train to help clear the problem train from the area. Does not matter if it's a different owner.
It's just luck of the draw if your train is behind and a cost all train operators have to bear.
  trainguy84 Locomotive Driver

It's a bit of a catch 22 if you don't go and help then your service is also delayed while they wait for help to arrive to get the stalled locomotive moving again.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Good size train today https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/albion2/photo/35797154451
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Enjoying dinner onboard the QR
Thought I saw a reference earlier today on Facebook somewhere to a CSR loco on the Melbourne to Bromelton train but have not had time to find it since. If I did see it, then I am not sure of its date or how long the CSR locos have been on the QLD run. I only saw the reference while occupied on another activity so did not record details.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Thought I saw a reference earlier today on Facebook somewhere to a CSR loco on the Melbourne to Bromelton train but have not had time to find it since. If I did see it, then I am not sure of its date or how long the CSR locos have been on the QLD run. I only saw the reference while occupied on another activity so did not record details.
petan
First run. CSR007 IIRC?
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Thought I saw a reference earlier today on Facebook somewhere to a CSR loco on the Melbourne to Bromelton train but have not had time to find it since. If I did see it, then I am not sure of its date or how long the CSR locos have been on the QLD run. I only saw the reference while occupied on another activity so did not record details.
First run. CSR007 IIRC?
speedemon08

4MB9 has SCT001 on the lead.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Thought I saw a reference earlier today on Facebook somewhere to a CSR loco on the Melbourne to Bromelton train but have not had time to find it since. If I did see it, then I am not sure of its date or how long the CSR locos have been on the QLD run. I only saw the reference while occupied on another activity so did not record details.
First run. CSR007 IIRC?

4MB9 has SCT001 on the lead.
x31
And 3MB9 had CSR007 and SCT

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