140 years of rail to hamilton

 
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
RAILWAY REUNION    HAMILTON      7/10/17
140 YEARS OF RAIL TO HAMILTON

Come and hear the guest speakers, Richard Gilbert Retired Driver, Now President "VRI" ( Victorian Railways Institute )  & Adrian Ponton, Retired Register of Tourist Rail & Safe working Advisor Vline.

They should be good.!

We may hear about the History of rail in Victoria, and the Western District, and what does the future hold for Rail Renewal, and expansion?) Anyone with interest in or have worked in Passenger Rail Travel and or the Transporting of Freight is most welcome to join us.

(On Saturday about 2.30pm a "Meet & Chat" at the Hamilton Rail Station, to reminisce and pass on “advice” to the powers that be !!! )

All Welcome..!

Then at night, 6.30pm,  a dinner at Alexander House,   $23 P/h, where we can further enhance the tall stories, and renew "New and Old," (they are getting that way)  friends.

Please let either Jan   (0355712339,   0438895016  JaniceWelch@bigpond.com.  or
Darryl  Smith  0417297268 darryl.smith@vline.com.au   know whether you can make it by ... 29/9/2017 …....!!

This will definitely be my last reunion,"( I know, I said that last time !!!)  and I would really like it to be a great one! "
So Please Come Along........!  


I scooped this off the," I used to live in Hamilton" Facebook page, thought it would be of interest.

BigShunter.

Ps; Mod's shift this to where ever, if not suited to this page.

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  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Was it Hamilton that Reg Ansett was forbidden from running his service car from as it competed against the Victorian Railways?
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Was it Hamilton that Reg Ansett was forbidden from running his service car from as it competed against the Victorian Railways?
GeoffreyHansen
Yes it was, I recently read a local history article that dealt with that subject in relation to the railways. So I'll just cut and paste the relevant section.
  • The government owned railways dealt with competition from privately run buses by running bus services of their own, but also through lobbying to restrict the operation of competitors. From 1924 the state parliament passed four acts specifically applying to bus operators. The most effective in thwarting competition with the railways was the Motor Omnibus (Urban and Country) Act of 1927. The four acts were consolidated and refined in the Motor Omnibus Act 1928. Section 38 (a) specified restrictions on bus services that might damage roads or compete with trains and trams.
  • While a few bus operators elsewhere in Victoria (notably Reginald Ansett) managed to run services on the edge of the law by exploiting legal loopholes, these acts largely eliminated bus completion with the railways in the years before the Second World War. The legislation defined a 'motor omnibus' as a vehicle able to carry at least six passengers, so the railways did not have a complete monopoly on public transport to Warburton and a few service cars continued to run from Melbourne, however the fares were expensive. ...
That's an extract from the end of chapter 4 (Transport) in an article called Donna Buang: the forgotten ski resort. It's weird where you can find things that answer questions on this forum.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
'eliminated bus completion with the railways in the years before the Second World War'
Don't think so...maybe the word you were trying to cut and paste was 'competition'.

M
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

'eliminated bus completion with the railways in the years before the Second World War'
Don't think so...maybe the word you were trying to cut and paste was 'competition'.

In the 1920,s / 30s the old  VR ran their own motor bus services between Spencer Street and Geelong in addition to the passenger train services .

The old VR
also had a fleet of road delivery vehicles for parcels andf  small freight at a number of major country locations to deliver parcels and small freight to the door. This service was known as VRMT  Victorian Railways Motor Transport ; and the last example was a fleet of 5 trucks based at Geelong till the late 1970's delivering to Geelong CBD businesses from the Parcels Centrte & Freight Centre at Geelong station .
The Vinelander
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Who set the font size for  ANTS  to read   !!!!
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Anti-competitive practice is illegal unless you are the government, just write your own laws to save your asre and then fine and jail the competition if they don't back down!
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Anti-competitive practice is illegal unless you are the government, just write your own laws to save your asre and then fine and jail the competition if they don't back down!
Heihachi_73
Exactly. Fortunately anti-competitive behaviour is illegal these days, but in the 1920s and 30s the railways had a monopoly on almost all land based transport. Therefore when a competitor (in the form of buses and trucks) appeared and challenged that monopoly, the railways did their best to thwart this new challenger.

As the quote in my earlier post points out, they tacked this threat in two ways; firstly by running their own trucks and buses and secondly by lobbying the state government to ban or at least restrict buses and trucks. Other transport monopolies or duopolies like the notorious Two Airline Agreement were just as bad, resulting in poor service and high prices.

Fortunately, we've abolished monopolies almost everywhere except for areas that require big government subsidies. The result is that companies to compete to offer the best quality service at the lowest price which is a win for ordinary people.

A reincarnated young Reg Ansett would be allowed to run his buses if he was around today.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line

A reincarnated young Reg Ansett would be allowed to run his buses if he was around today.
Bogong

But who'd want to travel on his Hamilton bus with the prospect of train service reinstatement in a few years.

Mike.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
FYI, Reg's old 1937 Dodge "bus" is at the Nhill aviation museum. It needs restoration.

Rick

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