Newcastle Rail Line: Announcements

 
  Xavier Station Master

Location: Newcastle, AU
I do not believe this to be the case. Unless the design plans have changed dramatically over the past few months, the light rail terminus is on the Southern side of the interchange with the Heavy Rail terminating on the Western side. The light rail then crosses Hannell St (site of the old gates) and continues along the old corridor before turning onto Hunter St at Worth Place.

Screenshot of the interchange from the flyover vid posted on youtube a few months ago by TfNSW:

http://i.imgur.com/DGWUZYi.jpg



The graphic shows the terminus on the west side (south-west might be more accurate). The shadows indicate this. The tram is crossing Stewart Avenue heading south-east.  Mayfield is to the north-east.
kitchgp

Probably closer to SSW but anyway Smile I haven't heard of that extension to Mayfield myself...personally, I think it would make more sense to have an extension out to the Stadium and JH Hospital which itself would present engineering challenges

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  Northern Flyer Train Controller

It always amazes me when one of the reasons for the truncation and elimination of the heavy rail was "to open up the foreshore and make it more accessible"
This is a steamy crock if I ever heard one.

Only 50% of the foreshore was ever "blocked" by the rail meaning the entire length from Watt Street to Nobbys beach was unencumbered by rail.
The foreshore was readily accessible to pedestrians via overpasses whilst vehicles and pedestrians had access at Stewart Aveneue, Watt Street and Merewether Street.

Can you name a city anywhere in the world with a ground level rail system that does not form some type of barrier?
Yet the rest of the world is able to function with rail lines but Newcastle is "special" and can't live if it is cut off from the "other side"

It just doesn't add up to waste millions of dollars on this half baked project!!!
Showtime
Now the barrier between the CBD and Harbour is being removed. The section you referred to was largely residential. http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4553078/head-of-steam-on-corridor/?cs=305
  Northern Flyer Train Controller
  TomBTR Chief Train Controller

Location: near Sydney
Well at least they are not repeating the Sydney mistake of specifying a proprietary off-board energy supply system. At least wireless, that is self-powered, rail vehicles have been around from a little before Stephenson's time.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

A first for Australia

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4604384/light-rail-journey-set-to-be-wireless/?cs=305
"Northern Flyer"



3 million kilometres??????  It's only 17,000Km from Newcastle (NSW) to London.


Given that the Newcastle system will only be 2.7Km, this is hardly an indicator for future extensions (if they ever happen, which I doubt). What are these changes costing? Is this a hangover from April 1?
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Should this topic be moved to Trams and Light Rail and combined with:

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2051232.htm#2051232  ?
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

According to a recently issued STN, Newcastle Interchange will open to trains from Monday, September 25.

However, current arrangements will continue with Services terminating/commencing at Hamilton.
Empty car movements will extend to/from Newcastle Interchange.

It is planned to begin Revenue services to/from Newcastle Interchange, as from Sunday, October 15.
  Xavier Station Master

Location: Newcastle, AU
It is planned to begin Revenue services to/from Newcastle Interchange, as from Sunday, October 15.
scott4570
Should be enough time to build a roof on it then Smile
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
The bean counters didn't do their sums, it got called a waste of money by the union last week on the news, everyone put their bikes on the train and ride the rest of the way into town.
In twenty years a Premier will declare Newcastle needs a train line.
  Piston Train Controller

Sydney Trains will be happy again, they will be able to refer to "Newcastle" instead of Hamilton as if nothing has ever happened.
Pity the visitor who thinks they will end up in the real Newcastle.
  Xavier Station Master

Location: Newcastle, AU
The bean counters didn't do their sums, it got called a waste of money by the union last week on the news, everyone put their bikes on the train and ride the rest of the way into town.
In twenty years a Premier will declare Newcastle needs a train line.
Junction box
Considering the tram will fulfil that role....I cannot see any reason why they would declare that. Are you anticipating the tram to be pulled up within the next 20 and replaced with heavy rail again ?  Pigs may fly as well...
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

The bean counters didn't do their sums, it got called a waste of money by the union last week on the news, everyone put their bikes on the train and ride the rest of the way into town.
In twenty years a Premier will declare Newcastle needs a train line.
Junction box

Bike it?   I can walk 2.7km in less time that it takes to wait for, board then alight from a tram.
  ssaunders Train Controller

A first for Australia

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4604384/light-rail-journey-set-to-be-wireless/?cs=305
Northern Flyer

Except as the article says Sydney will have wireless.

And as for the claim that 3 million km of this is just rubbish considering the world doesn't have that much railway line.
  Northern Flyer Train Controller

A first for Australia

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4604384/light-rail-journey-set-to-be-wireless/?cs=305

Except as the article says Sydney will have wireless.

And as for the claim that 3 million km of this is just rubbish considering the world doesn't have that much railway line.
ssaunders
Sydney has a short length of 3rd rail system within a larger system. NLR will have onboard batteries for the full system including any extensions.
  Northern Flyer Train Controller

Sydney Trains will be happy again, they will be able to refer to "Newcastle" instead of Hamilton as if nothing has ever happened.
Pity the visitor who thinks they will end up in the real Newcastle.
Piston
What is the "real" Newcastle. If it is CBD, the area around the new interchange is clearly the Business District and will become even more so as government departments move to the Store Building. Newcastle has been moving towards the west for 20 years, the truncation of rail has accelerated the process as billions are bing pumped into the city.
  Northern Flyer Train Controller

The bean counters didn't do their sums, it got called a waste of money by the union last week on the news, everyone put their bikes on the train and ride the rest of the way into town.
In twenty years a Premier will declare Newcastle needs a train line.
Junction box
The union?? really, that would be the ALP Union who will pick on anything the other side does out of habit. There will never be demand for anything more than Light Rail east of Newcastle Interchange that can't be handled by Light Rail. Why would any future government rip out Light Rail, including stabling facilities, rip out the brand new interchange, cut all the north-south pedestrian and road links through the city and push a heavy rail barrier down the middle of a waterfront city?
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

Why would any future government rip out Light Rail, including stabling facilities, rip out the brand new interchange, cut all the north-south pedestrian and road links through the city and push a heavy rail barrier down the middle of a waterfront city?
Northern Flyer
Why? Because it suits them to do so, just as it suited a government (for reasons best known to themselves) to rip out a high capacity, high quality, low maintenance railway, when all they had to do was what politicians like to do best - Nothing!
Just think, the money saved could have been spent in Sydney!!!
  Showtime Chief Train Controller

I was just up at the Gold Coast for a few days and used the light rail there quite a few times.
But unlike Newcastle's folly, the Gold Coast light rail actually goes somewhere, and is mainly on it's own corridor.
It is even being extended again.
What Newcastle is getting is just a waste of money - something that buses could have covered, and have covered for the past 70 years -
just a short stretch of road from the west end to the east end of town, something that I have walked heaps of times as a lad.
  Northern Flyer Train Controller

I was just up at the Gold Coast for a few days and used the light rail there quite a few times.
But unlike Newcastle's folly, the Gold Coast light rail actually goes somewhere, and is mainly on it's own corridor.
It is even being extended again.
What Newcastle is getting is just a waste of money - something that buses could have covered, and have covered for the past 70 years -
just a short stretch of road from the west end to the east end of town, something that I have walked heaps of times as a lad.
Showtime
Only a small part of GCLR is on a corridor. Most of it is in the middle of the road as separated running exactly as it will be in Newcastle.
  Northern Flyer Train Controller

Why would any future government rip out Light Rail, including stabling facilities, rip out the brand new interchange, cut all the north-south pedestrian and road links through the city and push a heavy rail barrier down the middle of a waterfront city?
Why? Because it suits them to do so, just as it suited a government (for reasons best known to themselves) to rip out a high capacity, high quality, low maintenance railway, when all they had to do was what politicians like to do best - Nothing!
Just think, the money saved could have been spent in Sydney!!!
Lockspike
"Suits the government" is a classic cop out when you don't what to acknowledge the reason for why they did it. For decades, the public has realised that the CBD of Newcastle was in terminal decay. A sizable part of that public believed that removing the heavy railway would be the trigger to revitalise the city. Both sides of politics have agreed with that at certain times. The fact that there has been a massive boom in Newcastle since truncation would support that theory. What other reason would you suggest the government did it for? Why else would they spend $650 million to do the work?
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

Why else would they spend $650 million to do the work?
Northern Flyer
Yes, why else indeed?
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
For 650M they could of run helicopter flights.
Hope they run a few Ferry's from Wickham wharf, gotta add to the place.
  Northern Flyer Train Controller

Why else would they spend $650 million to do the work?
Yes, why else indeed?
Lockspike
Well the official explanation is to connect the city to the harbour and revitalise the city. To date that has worked. Care to offer an alternative explanation?
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

Why else would they spend $650 million to do the work?
Yes, why else indeed?
Well the official explanation is to connect the city to the harbour and revitalise the city. To date that has worked. Care to offer an alternative explanation?
Northern Flyer
NF,
I wish you many years of happiness living in your urban planning paradise.
  edison Chief Commissioner

Power supply for the NLR? The video flythrough website animation shows panto collection.

Apropos of almost no connection to the topic - the columns supporting the awning along the Scott St frontage of NCL station are embossed with "Dorman Long and  Co, Middlesborough, England"

Sound familiar?

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