2018 State Election / Transport

 
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland

Also, could you mind explaining #31 and reasons it should be removed?
stooge spark
What I was mostly looking at, viewing the Intersection and looking to see If nearby properties and businesses have driveway access to the Intersection, If they do grade separation would mostly cut their road access !

At big Intersection like along Danenong Road, the local properties are accessed by service lanes or back streets.

But yes grade separating an Intersection that's currently a single lane roundabout If a waste of time and money, the one's listed at Pakenham and Sunbury defiantly fall Into the same category.

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Defiantly Question
  John.Z Chief Train Controller

Dandrews going to announce this morning that Airport rail and Geelong fast rail to be started before Metro tunnel opens in 2026

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-23/melbourne-airport-rail-link-could-be-well-underway-by-2026/9182036

Melbourne will get a long-awaited airport rail link in the next decade, and faster train services to Geelong and Ballarat under a bold plan to be outlined by Premier Daniel Andrews.
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Dandrews going to announce this morning that Airport rail and Geelong fast rail to be started before Metro tunnel opens in 2026

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-23/melbourne-airport-rail-link-could-be-well-underway-by-2026/9182036

Melbourne will get a long-awaited airport rail link in the next decade, and faster train services to Geelong and Ballarat under a bold plan to be outlined by Premier Daniel Andrews.
John.Z
It very much looks like they will try to implement the Rail Futures proposal for Airport Rail.

Reading between the lines Geelong services will not be "high speed rail" but express Little River to Sunshine on dedicated tracks.



40 mins (even Nth Geelong express to Southern Cross) is pie in the sky unless a more direct line is built and run with 250kph rollingstock.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Even today...with a clear path, an express service from Southern Cross to Geelong...and I DO mean EXPRESS, can make it in 40 mins.

Mike.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Well I am on record to saying the ALP will announce the airport link prior to the next state election.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
  • 33 Thompsons Road and Western Port Hwy, Lyndhurst
  • 34 Hall Road and Western Port Hwy, Cranbourne West

    These were always going to get done anyway.  The long term (2030+) plan is for the WP Highway to be upgraded to Freeway standard.  The planning is already done.

    Thompsons Road is even sooner though, the level crossing removal is the first stage of a multi stage plan for that road that has already started.
  stooge spark Chief Train Controller

Location: My House
Even today...with a clear path, an express service from Southern Cross to Geelong...and I DO mean EXPRESS, can make it in 40 mins.

Mike.
The Vinelander
The fastest train I can find on the website takes 50 minutes, its express Footscray to North geelong though.
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Even today...with a clear path, an express service from Southern Cross to Geelong...and I DO mean EXPRESS, can make it in 40 mins.

Mike.
The Vinelander
Technically I agree Mike but practically and looking towards the future a lot needs to happen for this to be a reality.

I would love to know their actual definition of "a 40min train" to Melbourne... Just another flagship service?
  True Believers Chief Commissioner
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Looks like Airport Rail is coming unto the political agenda for 2018 election.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-23/melbourne-airport-rail-link-could-be-well-underway-by-2026/9182036
  nozza99 Station Master

Location: Warrnambool, Vic
In the two V/line Warrnambool Timetables 10/10/10 and 3/5/11, N Sets were running Geelong to Southern Cross Via Werribee in 48 minutes. I'm sure it can be achieved in this era without drastic improvements in rollingstock top speeds.

  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

Okay, I've had a read of a few of the articles, and it seems that there is electrification to Wyndham Vale and Melton on the table, as well as obviously the airport line and the Geelong and Ballarat upgrades. I think the article in The Age suggested some of these could have been done via a tunnel between the city and Sunshine. Two thoughts:
One, it's a shame that Metro 1 had been scaled back to only South Kensington to South Yarra. I don't know if Sunshine was ever going to be part of it, but Caulfield was, and, yes, increased costs... but with all the tunnelling equipment already there and ready to go it couldn't have costed that much more, especially if they made it express to Sunshine with some sort of all stations service maintained. It would have certainly been cheaper than building an entirely new tunnel.
Two, I have mentioned this on other threads, but I believe Metro 2 is the answer to the West's woes; at least partially. If you get Geelong out of the mix, running the more direct route via Newport on new dedicated tracks (there should be plenty of room) and improving travel time and operational costs, then you could extend the Werribee Line onto RRL and have it terminate at Deer Park with seamless interchange onto relevant services. There is no point of expanding City-Sunshine even more, not now at least. Perhaps a direct tunnel/skyrail from the airport to the city would work, but the costs would be too great. I suggest that for the medium term, run services via Sunshine into Metro 1, then in future years allow V/Lines to use that line via the airport out to Bendigo and Seymour, freeing up space on the overcrowded Craigieburn and Sunbury lines. And of course along with that build the direct link. Bendigo and Seymour could then run via the freight tracks or in a new link from Albion to the city.
I should probably stop dreaming...
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@SamTheMan79 the Government has simply used the RailFutures proposal and say they will build it, which is not the same thing. The Federal Government is not going to fund new tunnels to the airport. Not when they are only prepared to spend $10 billion on their flagship freight project. Indeed to my mind they will conduct works on the ARTC standard gauge and simply build new rail from the freight alignment to the airport. The Feds will seek the cheapest option and the Vic Govt is lukewarm at best.

Michael
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Hey everyone, you should check this out.

http://www.melbournefoe.org.au/vic_transport_options_for_21c

Just have a read, so many great railway projects in there. If you have any other suggestions you can email them.
Anyways upcoming election is coming this is going to be interesting.

Also Clyde Rail maybe on the cards, Casey council has submitted their plan, of major infrastructure upgrades for discussion.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Tell Transurban to get stuffed.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Tell Transurban to get stuffed.
railblogger

My 2 cents, I have no opinion of toll roads as I never use them.

M.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Tell Transurban to get stuffed.
railblogger
Who would do this as Transurban runs Victoria?
Transurban would just tell the state government and the people of Victoria to get stuffed as they do this on a regular basis already.
The state government would then say 'thank you Transurban' on behalf of the Victorian people.
We have allowed a monster to be created and continue to exist.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The libs have promised to scope passenger rail return to Dunolly. The ALP have agreed to do the same. I have not read any major freight projects announced thus from the Coalition.

The ALP must be ahead in the freight stakes from my perspective.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Ah, just a Greens MP blabbing. Nothing to see here!

Thanks anyway, bevans.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The 11 tram has recently received federal funding during the Batman bi-election so the extension should, one would thing begin shortly.
  rokaifly Station Master

Where was the 11 extension in the budget?
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
The libs have promised to scope passenger rail return to Dunolly. The ALP have agreed to do the same. I have not read any major freight projects announced thus from the Coalition.

The ALP must be ahead in the freight stakes from my perspective.
bevans
The Libs certainly would`nt want to bank on their past history of transport planning to win votes .
As for Mr Guy`s scheme to "Grade separate "intersections ,that is just a horrendous nightmare to think about .

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