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QBX Class Withdrawn for a possible defect

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      Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

    With the Comments by Bevans getting lost in the Qube thread i thought it may be better to have a proper thread in here.

    Due to the QBX class now being withdrawn from service due to a suspected Traction motor problem causing a derailment in Melbourne a few days ago will this also apply to the similar CSR/BK class locomotives?
    Posted: 27 Dec 2017 10:46

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      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Clyde makes a really good point.  Could the BK's also be an issue?
    Posted: 27 Dec 2017 11:04
      Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

    This may become a watch this space type of event as all are the same according to wikipeadia (the usual thing about accuracy Applies)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSR_Ziyang_SDA1
    Posted: 27 Dec 2017 11:36
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    CSR's make up the bulk of the SCT fleet (if you leave off the LDP's) so this could be very interesting.
    Posted: 27 Dec 2017 11:53
      phower Chief Commissioner

    Location: Over on Kangaroo Island Sth Aust
    How many LDP have  SCT acquired, or better still how many are they proposing to get ??
    Posted: 27 Dec 2017 12:13

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      GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    5x which would give them 20x SCT/LDPs vs 12x CSRs.
    Posted: 27 Dec 2017 12:31
      Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

    CSR's make up the bulk of the SCT fleet (if you leave off the LDP's) so this could be very interesting.
    bevans
    It sure could but it is possible it is just a one off or some maintenance situation has caused the problem.
    Posted: 27 Dec 2017 12:31
      BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

    Location: Maldon Junction
    Are operators liable for damage caused in these sorts of incidents? Say it is found to be a maintenance failure? Or if it is an endemic fault? (Under Australian law the importer of a product is deemed to be the manufacturer for legal actions)

    BG
    Posted: 27 Dec 2017 12:44
      Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

    Are operators liable for damage caused in these sorts of incidents? Say it is found to be a maintenance failure? Or if it is an endemic fault? (Under Australian law the importer of a product is deemed to be the manufacturer for legal actions)

    BG
    BrentonGolding
    Yes the Owner of the unit causing a incident pays the network operator/owner then they sort it out with whichever third party is involved.
    Posted: 27 Dec 2017 12:55
      seb2351 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Sydney
    I notice the CSR's are still happily chugging about the network.

    Have the QBX been returned to duty?
    Posted: 30 Dec 2017 21:05
      BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

    Location: Maldon Junction
    I notice the CSR's are still happily chugging about the network.

    Have the QBX been returned to duty?
    seb2351
    Photo over on VicSig showing 3 x QBX on the Harefield freight yesterday so it looks like they are in the clear.

    I don't know how many days they have been back in service for, I did see one at the fuel point at Dynon last week but that would have been an expensive month or so for Qube I would imagine.

    BG
    Posted: 08 Feb 2018 09:37

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      M636C Minister for Railways

    I was told that there was a failure of a traction motor on a QBX which fouled the track, possibly the suspension arrangements.

    QUBE took them out of service while the problem was investigated and corrected.

    They leased CM class from CFCLA to replace the QBXs during the investigation and correction (in December and January).

    One unit was tested between Junee and Harefield for a few days. Then they were put back in service.

    It is possible that the CSRs being older had a different arrangement, or possibly SCT just did a quick check of their units and decided to keep running them. I'm not sure of the order in which the BKs fitted into this, whether they were older or newer than the QBXs, and there were two batches of CSRs as well.

    Peter
    Posted: 08 Feb 2018 10:30
      x31 Chief Commissioner

    Location: gallifrey
    I notice the CSR's are still happily chugging about the network.

    Have the QBX been returned to duty?
    Photo over on VicSig showing 3 x QBX on the Harefield freight yesterday so it looks like they are in the clear.

    I don't know how many days they have been back in service for, I did see one at the fuel point at Dynon last week but that would have been an expensive month or so for Qube I would imagine.

    BG
    BrentonGolding

    Cant seem to find that photo do you have a link?
    Posted: 08 Feb 2018 10:55
      BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

    Location: Maldon Junction
    Cant seem to find that photo do you have a link?
    x31
    I'm nowhere near that clever, sorry. http://vicsig.net/photos/latestphotos it is the first picture (ie latest) at the moment.

    BG
    Posted: 08 Feb 2018 12:40
      Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Dalby Qld
    Cant seem to find that photo do you have a link?
    I'm nowhere near that clever, sorry. http://vicsig.net/photos/latestphotos it is the first picture (ie latest) at the moment.

    BG
    BrentonGolding
    http://vicsig.net/photo/22207
    Posted: 08 Feb 2018 22:56
      crisfitz Chief Commissioner

    Location: Enroute somewhere
    Seems like they're all withdrawn again. 3 or 4 parked up at Junee, one at Minto. The CM7 / MC7 has be hauled by CM's the past week or so, the Harefield shuttle has been an all ALCo affair for at least 3 weeks.
    Posted: 30 Mar 2018 08:12
      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    And then the front fell off Razz
    Posted: 30 Mar 2018 15:53

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