I've heard of Sydney having "Red Rattler" trains and I was wondering what they were. Search wasn't being my friend, so I thought I'd ask.
I usually associate "Red Rattlers" with Melbourne's Tait sparks.
Thanks in advance.
As opposed to the steam platforms? From which you walked down the ramp to Eddy Ave to catch the Bondi tram?
Well thanks for that. I note that your 1985 Goninan cars looks quite beaten up even compared to our 1970s Hitachi stock. I guess they just looked aged because the Goninan sets seem to come from the same basic design as your 1964 Tullochs.
1st post newbie, yes i did click reply to old thread for a reason!After being led here and much site searching, i think the history of our Sydney rolling stock has become a victim of dead links and ever evolving protocols of user fashion. So to help those in later years wandering around search engines, wiki and here...
If they were referred to in 1960s articles as "red rattlers" could someone actually produce one of these articles? I don't remember seeing such a reference & rail history is often based on fiction that is repeated often enough until people too lazy to research accept it as fact.How very true this is, the name 'Red Rattler' goes back into the 50's and as boy living at St Peters in Lord St opposite the station (circa 1947~54), I traveled by Train numerous times into the City.
Melbourne's 'Harris' red rattlers were truly red, if you got one freshly painted from Newport workshops... but again I digress as they were rarely washed and were covered in dirt and normally looked brown.Hey; turn it up, Vinelander! The Melbourne red rattlers were Taits. The Harris was the first type of steel-bodied Melbourne suburban train, and the colour scheme was VR blue and gold. These trains started appearing in the mid 1950's when I was a member of the Melbourne High School Railway Club, and we could see them pass along the line between Richmond and South Yarra.
For 3 months in 1954 I lived in Malvern and traveled by both Train and Tram into the city.
The Melbourne Trains back then were nothing like those in Sydney.
First and Second Class and no connection between each car along with that ridge that ran along the top of the Carriages reminded me of something medieval and medieval it was if you were seen by the Station Staff alighting from a First Class carriage holding a Second Class Ticket.
regardless of what shade of red. A red rattler normally means an old single deck rolling stock from either sydney or melbourne that was painted in a redish hue of some sort. Sometimes they had different colours during their life but are most recognisable in their red colour.Red Rattler was a derogatory term used by the Labor Minister for Transport when the big push was on to rid us of the single deck suburban carriages and replace them with the uncomfortable Tangara's. By the time they came to be withdrawn, most had had their lift-up windows, which did used to rattle, replaced by Beclawatt windows, which could not rattle under any circumstances, just the same as they let very little air in. The ones that did rattle were the 1921 Bradfield wooden bodied cars!