ARTC and Victoria clash over millions needed in rail cash for North East train line

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 27 Feb 2018 15:44
  arctic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Zurich
Just for the record, side insertion of concrete sleepers is done not only by ARTC. I have seen it done on heavy mainlines in the US including on the Union Pacific. Cheers

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  woodford Chief Commissioner

I suppose I will be "shot at dawn for writing this next piece...........................sigh Sad

I watched them changing sleepers both during the actual regauging and latter when they were fixing mud holes and the "side insertation of sleepers" did NOT damage the track base in any of many instances I saw. In most cases I was allowed to get a good look at the track base. One thing needs to be remembered, the West line is the old BG and in the old days this was maintained to a very high standard and had something like 250 to 300 mm of ballast under the sleepers.

There was quite a few base failures on the SG track both north and south of Seymour, but this can be directly traced to the initial poor construction of the line.

woodford


The difference in track quality is significant either side of the river. I'm surprised the geology changes so much.
Fatty
Its probably not the geology, the East line, ie the old SG from Melbourne to Albury was installed VERY cheaply and the has had and stills does have serious drainage problems, ARTC has put massive efforts in trying to rectify the situation, but the track REALLY needs rebuilding from the base upwards.

As for the West line VLine effectively abandoned the line at least 20 years ago, the result being completely clogged ballast, rails with significant vertical bends in them making the ride quite poor, lastly sleepers in a pathetic state something like only 1 in 20 to 30 being any good at all. ARTC again has put a lot of work into this track but so far they have only done around 1/3rd of the total distance between Seymour and Albury, leaving plenty of scope for improvement.

woodford
  MetroFemme Assistant Commissioner

Why was the vline based line allowed to get so bad for so long?

Someone was not doing their job which was important maintenance.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Why was the vline based line allowed to get so bad for so long?

Someone was not doing their job which was important maintenance.
MetroFemme
This situation has been discussed at length in this thread. Go back and look.
  Inland_Sailor Junior Train Controller


"As for the West line VLine effectively abandoned the line at least 20 years ago"
woodford
That would approximate the Jeff Kennett era, the sell off of essential services and public instrumentalities and the beginning of economic [ir]rationalism and trickle down economics here in Australia. We've all seen how good that's been for infrastructure. [and the average person!!!!] Excuse my sarcasm.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
References on Twitter that another $235m on top of the existing fuming is needed to get the line to Class.

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