Ad Met goings on -

 
  wisp Station Staff

Location: Adelaide
Or we need to find a way to make certain stops on the Belair line request only - specifically thinking of Millswood, Torrens Park, Pinera.

If it works there, apply it to certain other stops like Marino Rocks, Albert Park, Kudla and so on.
justapassenger
And if it works there, apply it to Hawthorn and Clapham Smile

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  mawsonboii Locomotive Driver

Or we need to find a way to make certain stops on the Belair line request only - specifically thinking of Millswood, Torrens Park, Pinera.

If it works there, apply it to certain other stops like Marino Rocks, Albert Park, Kudla and so on.
And if it works there, apply it to Hawthorn and Clapham Smile
wisp
I wonder how many stops would be skipped and how much hold up there would be if stops were by request giving it's a one track service if you skipped half the stop's you'd have to wait in a siding for the train travelling in the other direction. this would probably annoy passengers. I am wondering if converting the Belair line to light rail would be a better and cheaper option than have heavy rail you could connect the Belair line to the current Glenelg line near Goodwood.
  DJPeters Assistant Commissioner

Or we need to find a way to make certain stops on the Belair line request only - specifically thinking of Millswood, Torrens Park, Pinera.

If it works there, apply it to certain other stops like Marino Rocks, Albert Park, Kudla and so on.
And if it works there, apply it to Hawthorn and Clapham Smile
wisp
Only one problem with request stops how do you actually request the stop, if you put in request stop buttons the Yobbo's will push them and you will still stop at every station along the line. The railcars here only have a driver and the only interaction with passengers is either locking or unlocking the doors and getting wheelchairs on and off the train. No PSA's travel on trains here anymore unless they are having a ticket blitz or returning from somewhere to Adelaide. The driver is the only person on board staff wise at times and they are behind a locked door for safety!
  patsstuffnow Junior Train Controller

This is not quite ADmet, but yesterday going to the Torrens Island Market I noticed that the Port Flat yard was empty apart from the piggy stackers and one old 20ft container.

Is something happening here as the are usually quite a few containers and old ones used for storage etc in the yard?
  ARG706 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA
From what I've heard, the NRM has been told to free up some space for the new spur line into Port.
  DJPeters Assistant Commissioner

From what I have heard there is no firm plan yet in place to actually do any thing there for the new station at the time being it has been suggested that some room may have to to be made. But it could all change if Labor does not get in after the election. Only a small amount of visual inspections have been conducted so far. So it could get knocked on the head if the Liberals get in and need that money for something else.

All they have got the Govt at the moment is an idea and that animation and that is about all any one else knows. How much planning if any is any one's guess at the moment. It was mainly an election sweetener more than providing an essential service though. So after the election who ever wins we might see some kind of announcement one way or the other! Just have to wait to and see though!
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

The project is happening, it's not just a vague pledge which will be cancelled once the election campaign is done. All approvals necessary from the Parliament (the Public Works Committee has approved it) and Cabinet have already proceeded and it has been handed over to DPTI as a project to proceed.

There has already been a considerable amount of work put into the detailed planning, including surveying of underground services and drilling for soil testing.
  patsstuffnow Junior Train Controller

Sorry guys, By Port Flat I meant the yard out towards Torrens Island used by G&W and Kerry Logistics.

Thats why I said not quite admet.

There may have been no trains there because of the long weekend but there are normally empty containers and stuff laying around.
One was an old TNT that has not moved in years. I think they keep container lugs or tarps and ropes in it.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Sorry guys, By Port Flat I meant the yard out towards Torrens Island used by G&W and Kerry Logistics.

Thats why I said not quite admet.

There may have been no trains there because of the long weekend but there are normally empty containers and stuff laying around.
One was an old TNT that has not moved in years. I think they keep container lugs or tarps and ropes in it.
patsstuffnow
Aurizon were using that yard and I believe that they are getting out of intermodal freight, which may be why it is seeing less action
  patsstuffnow Junior Train Controller

The project is happening, it's not just a vague pledge which will be cancelled once the election campaign is done. All approvals necessary from the Parliament (the Public Works Committee has approved it) and Cabinet have already proceeded and it has been handed over to DPTI as a project to proceed.

There has already been a considerable amount of work put into the detailed planning, including surveying of underground services and drilling for soil testing.
justapassenger
Just like the Torrens Road overpass from 40 years ago.

And the three other overpasses promised then and never built.

That's right Cross Road was another on that list.

Will my grandson live to see it?
  patsstuffnow Junior Train Controller

Sorry guys, By Port Flat I meant the yard out towards Torrens Island used by G&W and Kerry Logistics.

Thats why I said not quite admet.

There may have been no trains there because of the long weekend but there are normally empty containers and stuff laying around.
One was an old TNT that has not moved in years. I think they keep container lugs or tarps and ropes in it.
Aurizon were using that yard and I believe that they are getting out of intermodal freight, which may be why it is seeing less action
Pressman
The yard is shared from my recollection, and this yard was cleare, not just having a quiet weekend.
  DJPeters Assistant Commissioner

The project is happening, it's not just a vague pledge which will be cancelled once the election campaign is done. All approvals necessary from the Parliament (the Public Works Committee has approved it) and Cabinet have already proceeded and it has been handed over to DPTI as a project to proceed.

There has already been a considerable amount of work put into the detailed planning, including surveying of underground services and drilling for soil testing.
justapassenger
Yes but a more important project needs money to either start it or finish and the plug gets pulled on another project to fund it, happens all the time and like someone pointed out plenty of projects have been knocked on the head due to financial constraints. The bridge on Torrens Road at Ovingham is still waiting for the actual bridge to be built though and that got to the stage of buying all the property's needed and demolishing them, but it all now just sits there waiting and has done for a long time, so just because it has got to a certain stage does not mean it is set in concrete though. I doubt my grandchildren will ever see it and I have none at the moment.
  mawsonboii Locomotive Driver

The Libs won't win they have nothing to offer once again it's what they won't do, JW and Labor are a force to be reckoned with, Labor have changed our state for the better, all be it a few hiccups along the way
  Cato56 Station Master

A Contract has been awarded to deliver the Port Dock Railway Line as part of the Public Transport Projects Alliance.

There is no going back.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
A Contract has been awarded to deliver the Port Dock Railway Line as part of the Public Transport Projects Alliance.

There is no going back.
Cato56
any one know what is happening with the NRMs Connection to the Suburban network.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

A Contract has been awarded to deliver the Port Dock Railway Line as part of the Public Transport Projects Alliance.

There is no going back.
any one know what is happening with the NRMs Connection to the Suburban network.
Dangersdan707
It will be included as part of the new layout.

I don't believe they have anything accredited to run on the network at present, but I guess the principle matters.
  DJPeters Assistant Commissioner

A Contract has been awarded to deliver the Port Dock Railway Line as part of the Public Transport Projects Alliance.

There is no going back.
any one know what is happening with the NRMs Connection to the Suburban network.
It will be included as part of the new layout.

I don't believe they have anything accredited to run on the network at present, but I guess the principle matters.
justapassenger
Well it does if you want something delivered by rail, and yes I don't think the NRM now has anything accredited to run on Adelaide Metro track. It could change in the future though, so best to keep it connected just in case of.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

What could possibly be delivered to the NRM from the Adelaide broad gauge network any time soon? The only broad gauge rolling stock due to be retired any time soon is in Victoria, which would have to come by road if the NRM was to get any of it.

Given its service in three different states and on two gauges, a N Class loco would surely be a high priority acquisition for the National Rail museum, no?

Hopefully the project team will revise this requirement and stick to building in passive provision for a future installation if needed. If it is never needed, there's no need for it to be installed and maintained.

Restoring some crossovers along the active suburban lines would be a far better use of the money, allowing for a more resilient service in the event of disruption or planned works.
  mawsonboii Locomotive Driver

NRM no longer has permission or access to use the Adelaide Metro train lines for anything.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
NRM no longer has permission or access to use the Adelaide Metro train lines for anything.
mawsonboii
really, why?
they seem to want to
http://www.natrailmuseum.org.au/assets/pdfdocs/corporate/NRM-Strategic-Plan.pdf
  DJPeters Assistant Commissioner

NRM no longer has permission or access to use the Adelaide Metro train lines for anything.
mawsonboii
Actually they do but not on the mainline though. If you go for a Red Hen or Bluebird ride at the NRM part of the trip out towards the bridge is actually on Adelaide Metro owned track, the division is actually just past the Aviation museum where the NRM track stops and the Adelaide Metro starts both are connected to one another though. The NRM has to get permission from Adelaide Metro though to do these runs!

As for access what about a railcar or something like a 3000 type they cannot stay in service for ever,, lot easier to just drive or push it in rather than load on a truck and deliver it! Hopefully they will get one when the time comes either a two car set or a single car.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

As for access what about a railcar or something like a 3000 type they cannot stay in service for ever,, lot easier to just drive or push it in rather than load on a truck and deliver it!
DJPeters
Quite the opposite, far easier to get a heavy haulage company to do what would be a routine delivery for them than to have the connection constructed and pay for many years of upkeep just in case it might one day be used.

An enterprising heavy haulage company might even offer to do the delivery for free as a sponsorship-in-kind deal. Museum gets their delivery for free, company gets some great PR, win-win scenario.
  DJPeters Assistant Commissioner

Hahahahahaha  Free you have to be joking no one does anything any more for free these days. The NRM got Allambi gratis (Free) and then had to spend over $25,000 to get it bought to Adelaide by truck and that was with mates rates and the truck had a back load as well.  The NRM does not get handouts from Governments like a lot of you may assume, the larger percentage of the money walks in the front gate or spends money in the bookshop.

Also if the new rail proposal gets knocked on the head the Adelaide Metro themselves still might need to bring a railcar or railcars in for some group in the future. There have been a number of runs like this of a special run direct from Adelaide to the NRM and back again after the do at the NRM.

It is there at the moment actually the connection, so really it does not need anything done to it, only one train at a time would be able to go in or out, so rebuilding the junction might prove to be a bit more expensive than they thought, so they leave it like it is now. A railcar set now can go in and back out using the junction at the bridge. The only bit actually needing removing is the Rosewater loop part, but that now is simply just a single point removal job and not even on the mainline either. The Rosewater loop I think is planned to be a bikeway/ walkway type of thing.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Hahahahahaha  Free you have to be joking no one does anything any more for free these days. The NRM got Allambi gratis (Free) and then had to spend over $25,000 to get it bought to Adelaide by truck and that was with mates rates and the truck had a back load as well.  The NRM does not get handouts from Governments like a lot of you may assume, the larger percentage of the money walks in the front gate or spends money in the bookshop.
DJPeters
Yes, I remember donating a few hundred dollars towards the fund to transport Allambi to the NRM
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

True, the NRM is a bit too anonymous for a company to get their money's worth from in-kind sponsorship.

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