V/Line Incidents/Disruptions

 
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Does rail Transport Safety (whatever they are called today) investigate these sort of incidents and, if so, do they publish their reports?
YM-Mundrabilla
Based on this https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2017/rair/ro-2017-010/ I would assume that there would be an investigation into the SPAD by our train. If the service ahead was indeed wrong roaded then I assume that in itself will warrant an investigation.

BG

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  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Does rail Transport Safety (whatever they are called today) investigate these sort of incidents and, if so, do they publish their reports?
Based on this https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2017/rair/ro-2017-010/ I would assume that there would be an investigation into the SPAD by our train. If the service ahead was indeed wrong roaded then I assume that in itself will warrant an investigation.

BG
BrentonGolding
The Office of the Chief Investigator Transport Safety Victoria will most likely carry out the investigation on behalf of ATSB as it wasn't on the DIRN, but BG you are correct that it should appear on the ATSBs website.

The links below may be of some interest;

https://economicdevelopment.vic.gov.au/chief-investigator

https://transportsafety.vic.gov.au/rail-safety/newsroom/new-rail-incident-reporting-number


Jack
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Does rail Transport Safety (whatever they are called today) investigate these sort of incidents and, if so, do they publish their reports?
Based on this https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2017/rair/ro-2017-010/ I would assume that there would be an investigation into the SPAD by our train. If the service ahead was indeed wrong roaded then I assume that in itself will warrant an investigation.

BG
The Office of the Chief Investigator Transport Safety Victoria will most likely carry out the investigation on behalf of ATSB as it wasn't on the DIRN, but BG you are correct that it should appear on the ATSBs website.

The links below may be of some interest;

https://economicdevelopment.vic.gov.au/chief-investigator

https://transportsafety.vic.gov.au/rail-safety/newsroom/new-rail-incident-reporting-number


Jack
Jack Le Lievre
Thanks Jack.
Interesting that there appears nothing listed on the Victorian site for two years and as for the ATSB they are just so far behind as to not even be funny.
  712M Chief Commissioner

More major planned shutdowns continue over the next few months. Whilst inconvenient for most passengers, it will most likely be a more reliable service than when trains are normally running!

Geelong:
Until Tuesday 12/6: Buses replace trains between Southern Cross and Waurn Ponds/Warrnambool (excluding Wyndham Vale and Tarneit)

Wednesday 13/6 - Thursday 14/6: Buses replace trains between Geelong and Waurn Ponds/Warrnambool.

Gippsland:
Until Sunday 17/6: Buses continue to replace trains between Southern Cross and Pakenham due to Skyrail works.
- Some coaches will also operate from Parliament to Drouin and Warragul via the Eastern Freeway.

Saturday 30/6 - Sunday 8/7: Buses replace trains between Southern Cross and Traralgon/Bairnsdale to connect the new Pakenham East depot to the mainline.
- Some coaches will also operate from Parliament to Drouin and Warragul via the Eastern Freeway.

Ballarat:
Saturday 16/6 - Wednesday 20/6: Buses replace trains between Caroline Springs and Wendouree.

Seymour:
Thursday 21/6 - Wednesday 27/6: Buses replace trains between Southern Cross and Craigieburn.

Various night/weekend shutdowns will also occur on the above lines.
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
From some of the works that I have seen, it appears that they are extending the platforms at North Geelong and have installed a new set of points just North of the station.

It also appears that they are preparing to extend the recently constructed pedestrian bridge at Geelong Station into the Latrobe Tce Carpark. Not sure why they didn't do this in the original construction.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

From some of the works that I have seen, it appears that they are extending the platforms at North Geelong and have installed a new set of points just North of the station.

It also appears that they are preparing to extend the recently constructed pedestrian bridge at Geelong Station into the Latrobe Tce Carpark. Not sure why they didn't do this in the original construction.
Jack Le Lievre
Extending platforms? How many stations would need the work to run 9VL? I know Sunshine does (heaven only knows why that was a "passive provision" job). Any others?
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
From some of the works that I have seen, it appears that they are extending the platforms at North Geelong and have installed a new set of points just North of the station.

It also appears that they are preparing to extend the recently constructed pedestrian bridge at Geelong Station into the Latrobe Tce Carpark. Not sure why they didn't do this in the original construction.
Jack Le Lievre
I've just driven past North Geelong on the way home from Melbourne and can confirm there's a new set of points on the up leading into North Geelong yard being installed and whilst I would have highly doubted it, there is some form of platform extension work going on, on the up ends.

From what I hear around town, there's too much foot traffic during peaks traversing the footpath on Gordon Ave underpass. A fence was erected earlier in the year on both footpaths. Extending the pedestrian overpass bridge appears to be a way around this. Agree with Jack, should have been done in the original construction.

Also all overheard lighting in the Geelong yard being changed over to LED.
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
From some of the works that I have seen, it appears that they are extending the platforms at North Geelong and have installed a new set of points just North of the station.

It also appears that they are preparing to extend the recently constructed pedestrian bridge at Geelong Station into the Latrobe Tce Carpark. Not sure why they didn't do this in the original construction.
I've just driven past North Geelong on the way home from Melbourne and can confirm there's a new set of points on the up leading into North Geelong yard being installed and whilst I would have highly doubted it, there is some form of platform extension work going on, on the up ends.

From what I hear around town, there's too much foot traffic during peaks traversing the footpath on Gordon Ave underpass. A fence was erected earlier in the year on both footpaths. Extending the pedestrian overpass bridge appears to be a way around this. Agree with Jack, should have been done in the original construction.

Also all overheard lighting in the Geelong yard being changed over to LED.
SamTheMan79
Ok, after a better look around at North Geelong the following looks to have been completed-

- Up to 5 sets of automatic points installed in the North Geelong yard
- Parts of fencing and whatever else was around was moved so access could be gained to the site. No platform extensions!
- A fair amount of track replaced (with concrete sleepers) to enable the points to be put in place

At Geelong station it looks like a "works" area was erected for the drainage work that was completed in the tunnel as opposed to the beginnings of an extension of the pedestrian overpass.
  scumcock Locomotive Fireman

Good to see a couple of posters on here with some in the know info of the failings of a certain manager and the repercussions of there actions.
Managements own goal of implementing procedures that come at the detriment of services being cancelled due to drivers following said procedure is just magnificent.
Lets not forget this is the team implemented by Pinder and his "highly" skilled 457 crew who will take 2 drivers off there rostered trains to complete bio wash duties only to find the wash is broken but then put the 2 cancelled services that they pulled the drivers off as "staff sickness" shows how they treat there staff and take commuters for idiots.
Now ask yourself why would anyone go out of there way to help the company when a certain manager wants to lay the boots into them for any minor indiscretion...
  DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

In the same vein, there are drivers who work in Melbourne but live in the regional centres.  Most are waiting for positions to come up in their home towns.

Up until a month ago, if, say, a Ballarat driver became incapacitated on short notice and no other Ballarat drivers were available, they would ask the Melbourne driver who lived in Ballarat to come in and do that run.

Now there is the insistence that all Melbourne drivers must sign on and off in Melbourne, regardless of the circumstances.

So now that run will be cancelled due to "staff sickness" instead of being covered.

There has been some suggestion that there is a deliberate attempt by management to "create" chaos or an industrial dispute scenario in the lead up to the election.

Perhaps to engineer a "bailout" purchase of V/Line by Metro under a Liberal Goverrnment?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Perhaps to engineer a "bailout" purchase of V/Line by Metro under a Liberal Goverrnment?
DalyWaters


Did the ALP's transfer of assets from V/Line Pty Ltd to V/Line Corporation actually make this any more difficult? Or was it merely a feelgood exercise?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
On the 09.14 Dn Bendigo again this morning, we have been stranded between the RRL and Albion station for 15 minutes now, no information as to why or when we might be underway.

But don't worry, according to V/Fail they are running a Good Service on the Bendigo Line

BG
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Think how bad it could be if Victoria wasn't a "global leader in public transport."
  TheMeddlingMonk Deputy Commissioner

Location: The Time Vortex near Melbourne, Australia
Think how bad it could be if Victoria wasn't a "global leader in public transport."
Valvegear

* shudder *
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Think how bad it could be if Victoria wasn't a "global leader in public transport."
Valvegear
Well as it turned out Valvegear my train this morning was definitely not an endorsement of Victoria as "global leader in public transport"

Instead it was an indictment on Metro / V/Line, their OberFuhrer PTV and the decision to single the Bendigo line.

As already mentioned we stopped short of Albion for some unknown reason for over 15 minutes. The Conductor made one feeble announcement about waiting for the track to clear in front of us but he didn't seem to be getting any information himself.

Forward 10 or so minutes and after a spirited run from around Keilor Plains we departed Sunbury just under 15 minutes late and the crew made a good effort from there to make up a few valuable minutes despite the usual stupidity of running the service into P1 at Kyneton instead of leaving it on the old Down (fast) track despite there not being a cross.

As we departed Malmsbury we were still just over 10 minutes down on the TT but we weren't really piling on any great speed. Because of course we had been signalled into the crossing loop at Taradale where we crawled along at first 65 then 40 km/h all the way to the double Red before Elphinstone.

When the cross finally eventuated it was back on to the main (single) line until we arrived into Castlemaine P1 (normally this service arrives P2 CME so this was a small victory) at 11.09, almost 20 mins late.

Of course this meant that I had missed my connecting bus so it was a long walk in the rain back to work.

Pathetic.

BG
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Doesn't even read Grade 6 English.

50% pass mark if that. Sad
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Wow, @Carnot or anybody else know what the reason was for those hefty delays? I didn't get anything on my email feed last night.

BG
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Wow, @Carnot or anybody else know what the reason was for those hefty delays? I didn't get anything on my email feed last night.

BG
BrentonGolding
A combination of late-running previous trains, track faults/signal faults.  Situation normal.

Both Swan Hill trains carked it too this morning:


  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
N462 supposedly broke down before departure from Swan Hill this morning, with N474 (presumably off the cancelled morning down Swan Hill service) sent to rescue it thus a rare double-heading of the afternoon up Swan hill service.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
N462 supposedly broke down before departure from Swan Hill this morning, with N474 (presumably off the cancelled morning down Swan Hill service) sent to rescue it thus a rare double-heading of the afternoon up Swan hill service.
railblogger
Not too rare these days, wasn't there another one a fortnight ago for the same reasons?!?!

BG
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Did I see an N, passenger car(?) and another N on the up at Strathmore the other day - might have been Wednesday 13/6 or thereabouts?
Or did I imagine it? It crossed a down spark that I was on.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
bevans
SPIN (which is spin for lie).
What they really meant is that the 1205 down Albury is CANCELLED.

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