Malcolm Turncoat's imploding act

 
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
If Peter Dutton does get elected, it could be a nightmare for Bill Shorten and the Labor Party, I expect Dutton to be far more savage on Bill than Malcom ever was

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  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The government won’t call an election next month Don. If and election is called early it will be mid - late next year, September would be my guess if it goes early.
Aaron
Aaron, it's a very volatile and unpredictable situation, if there's a change of Prime Minister then I'd expect Dutton (or whoever) would call a poll fairly soon-ish after establishing their agenda. If this all blows over (again) then yes, I'd expect you will be right - Malcolm will hold on for grim death until as late as he possibly can.

As it stands things are getting so incredibly disorganised that I wouldn't be surprised if there was an issue getting anything through legislation wise; yet again the issue of who in the kindergarten gets to sit on the big chair is dominating, pushing everything else off the front page and in the meantime the nation's actual problems take a back seat...
  Big J Assistant Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
If Peter Dutton does get elected, it could be a nightmare for Bill Shorten and the Labor Party, I expect Dutton to be far more savage on Bill than Malcom ever was

Kind Regards
lsrailfan
Parliament will become even more toxic. Yeah for us,.......not.

Yesterday again demonstrates how their primary motivation is to remain in parliament and for self preservation, irrespective of the price of perceived instability with our sovereignty.

There is healthy democracy, but at the moment both parties get the wobbles as soon as their polling numbers are tanking over a 6 month period, is not democracy. They think swapping a leader to improve polling is a solution. It is pathetic.

They need to grow some and ride it out. Never saw Bob Hawke or John Howard go to water when polling was bad, when they were PMs. They reacted with policy change. Howard was particularly adept at doing that.

Yes Hawke did get tossed in the end, but he did have consecutive terms.

I find it ironic the Libs are bashing Turnbull, when he polls better than Dutton. Their solution swap them out and hope that he is more aggressive towards Shorten and the public will go with hard right policies. We saw how that went with Abbott.

In a way I am hoping that they do swap out. Dutton becomes PM. The LNP cop a flogging and so they learn the lesson that the ALP had to learn with Rudd-Gillard-Rudd. This time it will become Abbott-Turnbull-Abbott (oops Dutton).

I want them to do this. Sure they will pick up ONP votes in my lovely sunburnt state, but watch the independents and Centre Alliance erode Libs elsewhere.

Turnbull weakness caving to the right over NEG was excellent as it showed that act didn't placate the right as it had nothing to do with their concern about the coal power industry, but their pure lust to remove Turnbull as Abbott is salivating for revenge.

Very Shakespeare, but at our expense. Pathetic these career politicians. That applies to both sides.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@IsraelFan Dutton will be racist too.

Michael
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I find it ironic the Libs are bashing Turnbull, when he polls better than Dutton. Their solution swap them out and hope that he is more aggressive towards Shorten and the public will go with hard right policies. We saw how that went with Abbott.
Big J
But then conundrum fits in perfectly with what you were saying earlier about not having the gonads to change the policy. The rebellious LNP MP's are correct - Malcolm has had a bloody long time in the big chair but the cost of electricity is skyrocketing (set to double again in coming years even under the NEG), the gas cartel is robbing Australia blind and we're still running at record number of migrants, 87% of whom end up in just two cities.

Malcolm pretends he can't hear any of those problems - in fact his wife sits on the "Committee for Sydney" that tells people they should suck it up and get used to their city becoming an Asian mega-city with tower blocks everywhere and Bangkok traffic. It's really time for him to go and give someone - anyone else - a go because Malcolm has nothing to offer the electorate whatsoever.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The cross benchers may not give a Dutton lead govt the supply that he needs, to pass any legislation through, so IF that happens, he will have no choice but to go to the GG and call an early election, oh great, just what we need....

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  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Alan Jones (AKA The Parrot) has just tweeted (squawked?) that the Party Room meeting and ballot will be tonight in Canberra and that he's been assured by insiders that Malcolm has now lost the numbers and will not be Prime Minister by the end of the night.
  MetroFemme Chief Train Controller

Not enough numbers just yet for a spill this is just another day of focusing internally and ignoring the job of government.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Now News.com.au and the ABC are now both saying "tomorrow". Oh gosh, another night of that blow-fly buzzing around on the window-sill and the media dissecting the insect before its even dead.

"Didn't manage to please anyone..." would be my obituary.

EDIT: Is it just me or are we terribly hard employers sacking them all in a row like this... its getting like Italy!
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
So Dutton may become PM tomorrow, will be interesting to see who sides with him in the parliament now, am hearing some National MP'S may go to the cross bench if he gets elected, and also he needs support to get supply as well, this will be interesting, this could get a lot uglier before it gets better!!

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  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

It will be interesting to see what happens to Commonwealth contributions for urban public transport projects, such as the $5 bn for the Melbourne Airport Rail Link, if Tony Abbott, or his puppet Peter Dutton, gets the PM job. (Probably just on hold until Labor takeover; a sort of caretaker government.)
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

The government won’t call an election next month Don. If and election is called early it will be mid - late next year, September would be my guess if it goes early.
"Aaron"
A House of Representatives election any time in September 2019 would be on schedule, not early.

The Parliament expires on 29 August, so any election date after 5 October would need an elongated campaign such as the 55 day campaign in the 2016 double dissolution election which resulted in the Coalition getting punished for causing voter fatigue.

The latest possible date for the House election is 2 November, which would happen as a result of an exhausting 65 day campaign - Parliament dissolved  29 August, Writs issued 8 September, nomination date between 2-5 October, Election 2 November.

However, the current three year Senate terms expire on 30 June 2019 and there must be a half-Senate election held no later than 18 May 2019 to allow for the newly elected Senators to take office on 1 July 2019. Therefore we are more likely to see a 'full' election in the first half of the year to keep the House and half-Senate elections synchronised - any government which inflicts two federal elections on the people in the same year would be guaranteed to get some very rough handling from the electorate when the House election came around later in the year.

If there is a double dissolution instead, the Writs must be issued no later than 28 February.

The short version of all this is to expect an election in April or the first half of May next year, which will probably be a 'normal' House & half-Senate election but could be a double dissolution.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The biggest issue here is the axe hanging over Dutton's head in relation to the trust fund and government funding for the child care centres his family is involved in.  Dutton is also in a marginal seat.

Perhaps the plan is to allow Malcolm to win by a small margin until the real challenger is revealed?
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
At least it's possible for a PM to be shown the door by his colleagues mid-term here.

I am sure that many Republicans in the USA wish that they had the same weapon available.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
11am update.  Reports Turnbull to step aside to allow a Morrison vs Dutton contest.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Yep, it's all over for Malcs.  I'd rather Sco Mo than Dutton.

And it sounds like Alan Jones might be in just a bit of strife over his shocker on 2GB this morning....
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
What did the Parrot do this time?
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
What did the Parrot do this time?
lsrailfan
Not that big-a deal in my opinion... he used the expression "N....gr in the wood-pile". Frankly I haven't heard that saying for years and it shows how old Jones really is!
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Hey, I just realised that the "Malcolm Turncoat" thread is formally over... he's not standing for the leadership ballot.

Also, did anyone else hear that they're prologing parliament? No government for a while till we sort this out. Fair enough.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Hey, I just realised that the "Malcolm Turncoat" thread is formally over... he's not standing for the leadership ballot.

Also, did anyone else hear that they're prologing parliament? No government for a while till we sort this out. Fair enough.
don_dunstan
Has there been a Govt for the past 2 years??  Ah fair enough then, carry on!!
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Hey, I just realised that the "Malcolm Turncoat" thread is formally over... he's not standing for the leadership ballot.

Also, did anyone else hear that they're prologing parliament? No government for a while till we sort this out. Fair enough.
Has there been a Govt for the past 2 years??  Ah fair enough then, carry on!!
lsrailfan
Well they've formally adjourned Parliament now till September 12th, so no business of government till then anyway.

Who will be Prime Minister this afternoon?
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Yep, it's all over for Malcs.  I'd rather Sco Mo than Dutton.

And it sounds like Alan Jones might be in just a bit of strife over his shocker on 2GB this morning....
Carnot

And all over for the funding of the Liberal Party.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Hey, I just realised that the "Malcolm Turncoat" thread is formally over... he's not standing for the leadership ballot.

Also, did anyone else hear that they're prologing parliament? No government for a while till we sort this out. Fair enough.
Has there been a Govt for the past 2 years??  Ah fair enough then, carry on!!
Well they've formally adjourned Parliament now till September 12th, so no business of government till then anyway.

Who will be Prime Minister this afternoon?
don_dunstan

All Libs have reportedly been told to stay at PH and not head for the airport.

More to come this afternoon perhaps?
edit: now reports of a PM press conference for 1pm.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
"Peace in our time" Turnbull. Those that ignore the lessons of history...

I find ScoMo reasonable but apparently he isn't a darling of those who sit at God's right hand.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Turnbull is saying he will convene a party meeting at midday tomorrow if a majority of Liberal Members and Senators petition for one, where he will call a spill motion. If the spill motion is carried (which will probably happen if the majority do petition for the party meeting) he will not run in the subsequent leadership poll.

He then fired a massive torpedo at Dutton over his eligibility.

The indications of certain Nationals members that they would move to the cross benched would suggest that the Governor-General should refuse any attempt by Turnbull to resign his commission until the new leader can demonstrate they have control of the House of Representatives, and dissolve the Parliament if Turnbull insists upon resigning.

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