Suburban Rail Loop (Election promise)

 
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

@potatoinmymouth Because the project is unplanned has relegated MM2 and it could be met in the Short term by expanding the Bus Network.

Sorry I do not share your enthusiasm but the existing network needs to be fixed. Where is the plan on updating metrol for e.g.? What about re-duplicating the Bendigo line. $300 Million to plan for this ad-hoc project. Small worthwhile projects could be undertaken for that sort of money.

Whilst lauding what the ALP has done our network still has major issues. Much of the system is still running life expired stock leading to breakdown and still after 10 years we cannot get the Albury corridor functioning with an acceptable level of reliablity.

Michael
mejhammers1
If it was to relegated and take priority over MM2 why the hell would it appear in the strategic appraisal document. Both projects are happening. Not one is better than the other. They are both just as important as each other.

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  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

@potatoinmymouth Because the project is unplanned has relegated MM2 and it could be met in the Short term by expanding the Bus Network.

Sorry I do not share your enthusiasm but the existing network needs to be fixed. Where is the plan on updating metrol for e.g.? What about re-duplicating the Bendigo line. $300 Million to plan for this ad-hoc project. Small worthwhile projects could be undertaken for that sort of money.

Whilst lauding what the ALP has done our network still has major issues. Much of the system is still running life expired stock leading to breakdown and still after 10 years we cannot get the Albury corridor functioning with an acceptable level of reliablity.

Michael
mejhammers1
Fair enough. I share your concerns that "big shinies" are inherently more attractive to government than ongoing improvement.

Nevertheless I believe the infrastructure backlog in Melbourne is so significant that incremental upgrades will be unable to make any significant impact in a short enough timeframe. Updating Metrol strikes me as the railway equivalent of installing overhead gantries on the Monash - great in an ideal world, but incidental to the core issue of disastrously high peak demand. This project at least goes some way to addressing the underlying cause, rather than merely the symptoms.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@TrueBelievers MM2 is more important than this project as it will like MM1 provide extra capacity through the core.

This is Victoria, not London or even NSW. I do not think that either will be built. PT is always used as an electioneering bargaining chip.

Michael
  Rossco T Chief Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
@TrueBelievers MM2 is more important than this project as it will like MM1 provide extra capacity through the core.

This is Victoria, not London or even NSW. I do not think that either will be built. PT is always used as an electioneering bargaiing chip.

Michael
mejhammers1

I agree with mejhammers1 and others that there does not seem to have been proper planning done in relation to this Suburban Rail Loop project and that it seems more of an election stunt.  It reminds me a bit of how in the dying days of the Napthine Government they suddenly came up with the 'Melbourne Rail Link' project which was to be a replacement for MM1.

I don't like the way that the route has been presented as a fait accompli with all the station locations already decided.  I would much prefer that there had been a broader transport strategy announced first and that there was a more general direction to investigate an orbital rail corridor as a first step.  However, having said this, I do support the longterm goal to provide an orbital rail corridor for Melbourne.  I just want to see proper planning done first.

As for Infrastructure Victoria, I think this body is a complete waste of space.  I think that the Government's own Transport department (i.e. TfV) should be more than capable of determining the Government's transport priorities.  The 30 year Infrastructure Strategy that IV produced a couple of years ago appears like a poorly thought out grab bag of projects without any coordinated overarching strategy.

Ross
  chomper Junior Train Controller

With the sort of good will this idea has generated and massive public acceptance of an orbital rail line, any government stupid enough to piss on that sentiment doesn't deserve another go.