New Progress Rail/EMD Demonstrators for Australia

 
  M636C Minister for Railways

SSR will be doing transfers from the dock to Cardiff but will not be leasing or purchasing locos. They will be painted at Cardiff and it sounds like an owner has been found before they even land and it’s not SSR
"2LaGrange"


PN and SCT who grabbed the LDPs must be likely customers....

Peter

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  Trainnut12 Beginner

Just saw a post on Facebook showing these new units have now arrived. They arrived of a ship at Carrington sometime today and have been taken to Cardiff by SSR units 48s34 and 602. While it’s difficult to tell due to protective plastic, it appears EMD101, EMD102 and EMD103 are in a white undercoat livery.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Just saw a post on Facebook showing these new units have now arrived. They arrived of a ship at Carrington sometime today and have been taken to Cardiff by SSR units 48s34 and 602. While it’s difficult to tell due to protective plastic, it appears EMD101, EMD102 and EMD103 are in a white undercoat livery.
Trainnut12
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Bring up Carrington for the 13th
  decry1234 Station Master

Latest Motive Power has a photo of EMD102 in primer and states one will be based at Cardiff and two at Port Augusta.
  GS4 Train Controller

3 demo for Australia
If these were "built for Australia" in 2016, why aren't they in Australia?
No customers. Expect them to be here by years end, is what I was informed by a manager from Muncie.

Jack
Seriously? They are "demonstrators" for Australia. Bring them to Australia and demonstrate them!
If every operator in the country already knows what a GT46 does, nobody really needs to see a demo. Perhaps you build demos while you try to get your Tier 4 into production, or maybe there is a new style hotplate available.

EMD really should have built the proposed narrow gauge 138/150-tonne GT46CU-ACe as demonstrators instead - proving this design on the Aurizon coal network (theoretically capable of supporting a 159-tonne six axle locomotive) would have made a much bigger impact than building updated versions of the proven standard gauge design. There remains an ongoing need for the next generation narrow gauge AC traction Australian diesel, which to date has not been exploited by EMD. Both Aurizon and PN will need new power sooner rather than later - and PN's dalliances with the SDA-2 88 class and the UGL/GE PowerHauls has shown current available designs have long and difficult transitions from construction to active service. Between them, Aurizon, PN and BMA have 358 locomotives allocated to the Aurizon coal network.
Sulla1
I agree with the need to get a 3'6" GT46CU-ACe moving quickly now.

Although the Newlands system which will include Adani coal traffic is not electrified there is plenty of diesel hauled coal trains on the rest of the QLD network.  
Siemens could sell more electrics for the rest of the system allowing current 4000 types to be reallocated to Newlands.  PR EMD could miss out on a lot of sales through complacency.

I was also wondering if anyone knows where the 88's and Power Hauls are currently running.  I put some photos of the 88's on Flickr when they were new but have seen nothing of the Power Hauls after they left NSW.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

The 88s are currently working as trailing locomotives and DP remotes on the Blackwater System, but not apparently allowed to lead. The PHs are still undergoing testing and accreditation on the Goonyella System, I stiil haven't heard of them working a train, but they were testing around Dysart a couple of months ago.
  2LaGrange Train Controller

I thought this thread was about GT46Ace Standard Gauge locos ? Most of the posts are referring to that so why is the thread being highjacked by those on the skinny gauge from up north ?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

I thought this thread was about GT46Ace Standard Gauge locos ? Most of the posts are referring to that so why is the thread being highjacked by those on the skinny gauge from up north ?
2LaGrange
The GT46 variants will be available in both gauges, and the skinny gauge market will be larger than that for God's gauge - discussing the reasons for these imports of either gauge has reasonably equal merit. This a locomotive model that will not be judged by its gauge or the state it runs in.
  GS4 Train Controller

Gaugeist and gaugeism ............ what is the world coming to ?

Very Happy
  2LaGrange Train Controller

The 3 new standard gauge GT46ACE-2s will be going to their new owners after a paint job, it’s not PN,SCT or SSR.
The locos are very similar to previous GT46ACE, main change is walkway around the rear of loco by moving electrical components around.
They will not have 6 inverter drives but will stick to the inverter per bogie design that has proved very reliable.
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Really 2LaGrange, then why have SCT returned the LDPs?
  2LaGrange Train Controller

Yes, SCT have returned the LDPs as a cost saving measure. However they will keep one or two with the rest going to PN on a short term lease.
  decry1234 Station Master

Any updates on these 3 locomotives?
  Trainnut12 Beginner

EMD102 and EMD103 were spotted with GWU008 today at Broadmeadow and are still in a white undercoat. I am thinking they may be getting taken to Port Augusta workshops as two were supposed to be going there but I’m probably wrong. I’m assuming EMD101 is still at Cardiff?
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
EMD102 & EMD103 have been transferred to Port Augusta Workshops.
  ANR Assistant Commissioner
  Clyde_AT26HC-2M Chief Train Controller

Have heard GWA have purchased them keeping a all EMD roster in SA.
  NG Sulzers Deputy Commissioner

Location: Quorn
GWA haven't as yet had an All EMD Roster in SA.
  Clyde_AT26HC-2M Chief Train Controller

Didn’t say they “have" currently or past. How ever I am sure you would know a lot more Dion being a GWA representative....
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
But you did say:
keeping a all EMD roster in SA.
Clyde_AT26HC-2M

Last time I checked, to keep something you have to have it in the first place!
  Shacks Ghanzel

Location: Sir Big Lens of the Distant Upper Hunter
The 3 new standard gauge GT46ACE-2s will be going to their new owners after a paint job, it’s not PN,SCT or SSR.
The locos are very similar to previous GT46ACE, main change is walkway around the rear of loco by moving electrical components around.
They will not have 6 inverter drives but will stick to the inverter per bogie design that has proved very reliable.
2LaGrange
In the video here it shows 3 inverters in the place of the 1 large one on the older loco's.
  2LaGrange Train Controller

The 3 very small inverter panels on the side are not main traction inverters they are for inverters contolling traction motor blowers and fan control removing the need for mechanically driven front bogie traction motor blower. This has removed a mechanical load from main engine increasing hp available for traction. These inverters have also improved reliability as a common problem on earler GT46Ace was TCC blower faults. ( Electrical contractor faults for blowers ) Using inverters removes the need for these contractors.

The locomotives use two inverters for traction exactly the same as did earlier locomotives the electrical cabinets have just been compressed and re arranged to fit a new walkway around rear of locomotives.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
Photos on a facebook group show a fully painted GWB002 doing trials between Pt Augusta and Pt Pirie this weekend.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Photos on a facebook group show a fully painted GWB002 doing trials between Pt Augusta and Pt Pirie this weekend.
nscaler69
https://www.facebook.com/portaugustatrains/?__tn__=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARCQ9uEeop-AKOVU3YwEeYAlV3aLaMdO2iWQwe4uHaDw9BCXRnb4Ngu5Hco6Mu1ebJumJg1VV1Y2Ax1-
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Photos on a facebook group show a fully painted GWB002 doing trials between Pt Augusta and Pt Pirie this weekend.
https://www.facebook.com/portaugustatrains/?__tn__=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARCQ9uEeop-AKOVU3YwEeYAlV3aLaMdO2iWQwe4uHaDw9BCXRnb4Ngu5Hco6Mu1ebJumJg1VV1Y2Ax1-
jmt
That's GWB102.

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