Pre-production photos of NSW MFA & MFH 12 wheel passenger carriages have started to surface on facebook and will no doubt their way here soon enough. The models will be on display at Liverpool exhibition later this month where you'll be able to pick up an order form.

The photos have been uploaded to the Australia Model Rail Facebook group; you need to be logged in and a member of the group to view the post. As Poath mentioned however they are bound to appear on here shortly.

The post states the models will be available in twin-packs comprising an MFA and MFH in either Candy or Indian Red, priced at $300.00 each.

The photos have been uploaded to the Australia Model Rail Facebook group; you need to be logged in and a member of the group to view the post. As Poath mentioned however they are bound to appear on here shortly.

The post states the models will be available in twin-packs comprising an MFA and MFH in either Candy or Indian Red, priced at $300.00 each.

Since virtually every MFA and MFH was different, have they given the numbers of the two they are making?

Peter

4 numbers shown in samples, one of the candy sample carriages has 4 wheel bogies

The photos have been uploaded to the Australia Model Rail Facebook group; you need to be logged in and a member of the group to view the post. As Poath mentioned however they are bound to appear on here shortly.

The post states the models will be available in twin-packs comprising an MFA and MFH in either Candy or Indian Red, priced at $300.00 each.

Since virtually every MFA and MFH was different, have they given the numbers of the two they are making?

Peter

Hi Peter,

The photos show the following cars:
Indian Red:
MFH 2705 (12-wheel)
MFA 2712 (12-wheel)

Candy:
MFH 2703 (12-wheel)
MFA 2722 (2BS-type Bogies)

I'm not familiar with these carriages but they each look to have different sides.

Again this is just based on the Facebook post; I'm sure On-Track will release much more detailed information soon.

Cheers,

The photos have been uploaded to the Australia Model Rail Facebook group; you need to be logged in and a member of the group to view the post. As Poath mentioned however they are bound to appear on here shortly.

The post states the models will be available in twin-packs comprising an MFA and MFH in either Candy or Indian Red, priced at $300.00 each.

Since virtually every MFA and MFH was different, have they given the numbers of the two they are making?

Peter

Hi Peter,

The photos show the following cars:
Indian Red:
MFH 2705 (12-wheel)
MFA 2712 (12-wheel)

Candy:
MFH 2703 (12-wheel)
MFA 2722 (2BS-type Bogies)

I'm not familiar with these carriages but they each look to have different sides.

Again this is just based on the Facebook post; I'm sure On-Track will release much more detailed information soon.

Cheers,

If my memory is correct they are supplementary interurban loco hauled carriages.

Under Shirley's time the vast majority of old Steel bodied country pax carriages were withdrawn and subsequently scrapped, leaving only timber sided carriages in service (mainly) many of these were converted to become supplementary carriages on the Blue Mountains, NCL/Central Coast and Illawarra lines hauled by mainly main line diesels and 46cl under the wires.

All the interiors were gutted and suburban type of roll over back rest double seats were installed against each side and middle aisle walk ways.

I think at least one of these carriages were part of the destroyed carriages at Granville. I stand corrected on that though.

Since virtually every MFA and MFH was different, have they given the numbers of the two they are making?

Peter

Hi Peter,

The photos show the following cars:
Indian Red:
MFH 2705 (12-wheel)
MFA 2712 (12-wheel)

Candy:
MFH 2703 (12-wheel)
MFA 2722 (2BS-type Bogies)

If my memory is correct they are supplementary interurban loco hauled carriages.

I think at least one of these carriages were part of the destroyed carriages at Granville. I stand corrected on that though.

You are right, three MUB set cars were destroyed at Granville. MFH 2703 was one of them, but 2707 was subsequently renumbered 2703 and presumably this later car is the one being modelled. Both MFH 2703 (2nd) and 2705 were converted from CAM, so ought to be near identical. MFA’s 2712 and 2722 both were MFE at one time, so their bodies may be similar, but the underframes should differ to reflect changes to ride on 4-wheel bogies.

Will be interesting to see these models!

Hi All,

As mentioned above details of our new Supplementary Interurban Cars have leaked out.

On Track Models is producing two main designs, the MFH & the MFA.

The MFH numbers are 2705, 2707, & 2703 (2nd)

The MFA numbers are MFA 2712, 2714, 2716, & 2722.

These will be packaged as twin packs in 3 colour schemes.

Series 201 models will be Deep Indian Red with L7's

Series 202 models will be Deep Indian Red with no logos

Series 203 models will be Candy.

There are 3 packs in each series - a, b, & c

Images of the cars can be located here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/on_track_models/albums/72157695694387900

The On Track Models Team

Welcome to Railpage OTM.

What ever happened to the 80 class that On-Track were going to do ?

What impresses me the most about these are the roof details:

https://flic.kr/p/2bgcsGc


No more running lengths of tape over the roof to get that 'Malthoid' effect ('Malthoid' is a bitumen-based membrane system used on carriage roofs).

Great job OTM!

Cheers

The supplementary Interurban cars had a very complex history, partly due to the Granville accident.

They were marshalled originally in eight car sets.
The third digit of the number indicated the set:
So 2700 to 2707 formed set 10
And 2710 to 2717 formed set 11

Each set was divided into four smaller sets, so 10a, 10b, 10c, 10d each with one car with guard's compartment (MFH)
The set numbers were painted on the outer end of the MFH and remained there for years after the set idea went away.

I think all the (original) cars in sets 10 and 11 retained the 3AG bogies.
It is possible that most later cars had the cast 2CA type....




So the MFH models with L7 logos should probably have set numbers, if their third number was 0 or 1

As indicated above, after Granville there was some hasty remunbering (I don't think set 11 was in service by then).

Things continued to be confusing after the idea of sets was given up.

Cars with fourth digits above 7 were built eg 2708.

The last few cars arrived in SRA bright red (candy) and with aluminium framed windows.
Other cars were painted in SRA bright red.

But for 1988, many cars in SRA bright red were repainted Indian Red to run on heritage trains fot the Bicentenary, including at least one car with Beclawat windows that had never been indian red in that form before.

I tried to photograph both sides of each car of those on the two trains for the blessing of the bells in Goulburn.
Each train had a Bicentennial 81 class, and 3801 led one train south and the other north.
Most of the supplementary interurban cars were on these two trains (including one IFS and one MFS).

Peter