Colours of 900 at NRM

 
  xdford Chief Train Controller

HI All,

It has been a while since I have been to Adelaide and even longer since visiting the NRM due to family commitments. Is 900 in the museum with a Regal Red front as it was from the early 60's to early 70's or is it as 907/909 were painted when in Steam Ranger service which 900 wore in its first few years?

I am checking on information for another article for the modelling Railways of SA convention (seems silly from a distance but there you go) and will probably have a few other data double checks in the next few months.

If anyone has recall of any unusual observations of any of the English Electric loco classes they could report here, please add to this thread as I am trying to cover 350's, 500's and 800's as well as the 900's

Thanks in Anticipation

Trevor

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  xdford Chief Train Controller

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DJPeters
Thanks David,

Can I also confirm that two 500's were converted to run multiple unit in the mid 80's and if so which two please? Also where were they primarily used?

Again  TIA

Trevor
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Thanks David,

Can I also confirm that two 500's were converted to run multiple unit in the mid 80's and if so which two please? Also where were they primarily used?

Again  TIA

Trevor
xdford

Yes - can't remember which ones.
  Big Mikado Beginner

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The two 500's that were fitted with multiple unit connections were 534 (ex class leader 500) and 527. They worked almost exclusively in the Dry Creek North yard on Standard Gauge at the time, and were commonly known as "Bib and Bub" to AN staff.

Something else that may be of use was that 807 was the only 800 that was not painted in AN colours, and also retained it's handrail mounted marker lights to the very end. The loco was sidelined for major oil leaks (late 80's, before the MPC was opened) and many parts (including the handrails) were purchased for the NRM as spares for 801.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Converting the 500s to multiple unit operation would have been a interesting task because as built their controllers were mechanical drum type only, they were linked mechanically across the cab for the LH and RH positions.
MU would have needed significant additions to the control circuits, certainly not impossible but a bit of added complexity.

Did the gear come from redundant locos or even H type trams?
  Big Mikado Beginner

Location: South Oz
Converting the 500s to multiple unit operation would have been a interesting task because as built their controllers were mechanical drum type only, they were linked mechanically across the cab for the LH and RH positions.
MU would have needed significant additions to the control circuits, certainly not impossible but a bit of added complexity.

Did the gear come from redundant locos or even H type trams?
steam4ian
I was a Mechanical Fitter, so I didn't know much about how the electrics were done. I recall they were fitted with a 830/600 style MU stand, a purpose made MU cable, and the usual MU air brake piping, to the A end only of each loco (they always worked nose to nose). Plus a hose for the throttle air to the speed piston on the governor. I recall some of the 500's being retrofitted with an electronic load regulator, but this was early to mid 90's so I think the MU mods to these loco's predated this. I do recall the pair being shopped frequently because of problems with them not loading up together.

Just getting back to my previous post, I spoke with one of my colleagues who used to shunt with the pair. For the sake of historical accuracy, while I remember them as "Bib and Bub" (from a workshop perspective), the Traffic and Loco boys called the pair "Bill and Ben". They shunted Dry Creek North yard, and often worked the "Runner" to Islington Freight Centre and return. I recall them in full cry (for a 4 cylinder EE!) departing the Creek with a hefty load past the MPC. I always took an interest in 527, as I was involved with it's overhaul at Islington in 1985 (the engine was ex 502). I think 527 still exists and resides in WA, so I presume the connections would still be evident.

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