The NEW DEAL that country people got on October 4, 1981 that actually became the RAW DEAL for country people in Victoria

 

News article: The NEW DEAL that country people got on October 4, 1981 that actually became the RAW DEAL for country people in Victoria

The Start of the NEW DEAL which saw on October 4, 1981  the closure of 35 country railway stations across Victoria by the Hamer Government and the closures continued through the Kirner/Cain Government.

  x31 Chief Commissioner

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  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
I'm outraged the insensitive hacks at the RRA have ignored my calls for the introduction of half hourly suburban services to Clunes Evil or Very Mad
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
When I was at Maryborough a couple of weeks ago, I was surprised to find that the RRA had not had a huge memorial constructed adjacent to this set of dismantled points. All in Black of course, with effigy's of numerous politicions hanging from the RRA constructed Gallows.

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  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Without the New Deal and the resulting patronage boom it’s more than likely we wouldn’t have a country rail service at all, full stop, end of story.

I cannot for the life of me understand how these nuffies believe that bringing a decrepit and hopelessly inefficient railway network into the post-War world was somehow a bad thing.

Yes, it was mostly downhill through the 90s but since the election of the Bracks government in 1999 there have been bazillions invested in country rail and more now than ever.

I have no time for muppetry such as that practised by the RRA, because it demeans and dilutes the work of rational advocates and commentators, making reasonable campaigns easier for politicians to write off.
  justarider Chief Train Controller

Location: Stuck on VR and hoping for better.
Without the New Deal and the resulting patronage boom it’s more than likely we wouldn’t have a country rail service at all, full stop, end of story.

I cannot for the life of me understand how these nuffies believe that bringing a decrepit and hopelessly inefficient railway network into the post-War world was somehow a bad thing.

Yes, it was mostly downhill through the 90s but since the election of the Bracks government in 1999 there have been bazillions invested in country rail and more now than ever.

I have no time for muppetry such as that practised by the RRA, because it demeans and dilutes the work of rational advocates and commentators, making reasonable campaigns easier for politicians to write off.
potatoinmymouth
a simple "like" or "agree" is not enough to express my total support for your comment.

PS: what are you doing moonlighting on reddit. Isn't here a rule ?

cheerts
John
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Like this well written summary.

The NEW DEAL that country people got on October 4, 1981 that actually became the RAW DEAL for country people in Victoria
x31
You really do live in Cloud Cuckoo Land or Gallifrey don't you? Where I come from we speak English (with Australianisms thrown in for good measure).

I don't know what they speak in your world but to say that this article is well written belies a lack of basic understanding of our mother tongue.

I didn't get past the first paragraph without reaching for the Head In Palm of Hand emoji. It doesn't even make sense.

Now let us come to the content of the "article". As PIMM has said above and I think @TheVinelander among others have pointed out before it was the New Deal that paved the way for the Sprinter order which paved the way for the RFR which paved the way for the RRL which will pave the way for MARL and whatever comes next.

I spent a couple of hours at The Railway Hotel in Castlemaine tonight watching the trains going by, 3 Up and 4 Down I think it was in 2 hours (plus a cheeky SSR Light Engine movement). That is about the same number of services that ran through The Maine in a whole day before the New Deal.

Without the New Deal we would have Coaches, Coaches and more Coaches and not a train in sight. Have you ever read (or googled) the Lonie Report? Have the RRA? I don't think so.

I could go on but it will only make me angry(ier). Yes, there is room for improvement but no, the New Deal was not a disaster instead it was a case of a Government (in the face of strong support for Country Rail from voters) halting the decline and starting a statospheric upward shift in pax numbers that it still going on today.

BG
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
"Old man yells at cloud"

That's about all this "article" is.

As PIMM and others have said. New Deal was necessary, and a much more favourable option compared to the Lonie Report, which was in favour of closing just about every country rail line except for the Geelong line.

Just take a look at South Australia, and see how their country rail network has fared over the past 35 years and then look again at Victoria's and tell me if you still think its all that terrible.

It could be better sure, but it just as easily could be a hell of a lot worse.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I'm outraged the insensitive hacks at the RRA have ignored my calls for the introduction of half hourly suburban services to Clunes Evil or Very Mad
bingley hall
I'm outraged that the insensitive hacks at the RRA have written a headline too long to be read in the half hour gaps between your proposed services to Clunes.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The point to make here is about hr closure of stations on the network and he running down of the network by Jeff Kennett is the theme.

Without the ALP investment is rfr would have been in the toilet.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
The point to make here is about hr closure of stations on the network and he running down of the network by Jeff Kennett is the theme.

Without the ALP investment is rfr would have been in the toilet.
freightgate
Utter rot, that is not what the article is about at all. I suggest you go back and re-read it. The whole thing this time.......

BG

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