Concrete Sleepers in 60lb track

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 06 Oct 2018 10:42
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
What a great achievement. 

Their network will be looking better than Metro soon!

Concrete Sleepers in 60lb track

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  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Concrete sleepers and 60lb rail.............. Hmmm.......... sounds like that new track from Aararat to Maryborough, that YM slapped together  Razz

BigShunter.

I had better say, well done to the crew with the work that has been going on, I have enjoyed seeing the pictures of the upgrade of the track.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I had absolutely NO IDEA where this was until I read the very last line of the attachment...

So feel free to join us tomorrow, 8am from Maldon or 8.45am on site.

Mike.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Concrete sleepers and 60lb rail.............. Hmmm.......... sounds like that new track from Aararat to Maryborough, that YM slapped together  Razz

BigShunter.

I had better say, well done to the crew with the work that has been going on, I have enjoyed seeing the pictures of the upgrade of the track.
BigShunter

The sleepers are going ouot at a great rate and will no doubt help to make it a better ride for the punters and reduce maintenance costs for the railway.  VGR is really going ahead.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I had absolutely NO IDEA where this was until I read the very last line of the attachment...

So feel free to join us tomorrow, 8am from Maldon or 8.45am on site.

Mike.
The Vinelander
Makes two of us.
I have previously wasted my time asking for a broad location in the heading of posts like this. Opened one the other day that looked like it night be interesting - turned out to be a trivial issue somewhere in the back blocks of Canada.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
And to think that there is already another thread, and topic even, where this 'news' (good as it is) should have been posted.

But some people seem to like starting new news threads.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
I had absolutely NO IDEA where this was until I read the very last line of the attachment...

So feel free to join us tomorrow, 8am from Maldon or 8.45am on site.

Mike.
Makes two of us.
I have previously wasted my time asking for a broad location in the heading of posts like this. Opened one the other day that looked like it night be interesting - turned out to be a trivial issue somewhere in the back blocks of Canada.
YM-Mundrabilla
Just for you YM, next time they install a new DG splitter (will no doubt be some changes at Dunolly to come I guess, not to mention what might go on at Ballarat if SG ever gets there), I will try to start up a News Topic on just why they are necessary, why the SG rail needs to change side, why the SG is the one to be affected most speed wise etc, etc. Oh, they probably exist at the Russian border too, maybe I better go look and set one up now...…...
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Daniel Andrews should hire this crew for maintenance on the Murray basin network.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
I had absolutely NO IDEA where this was until I read the very last line of the attachment...

So feel free to join us tomorrow, 8am from Maldon or 8.45am on site.

Mike.
The Vinelander
This is what happens when a site just straight-up rips content from a blog and 're-syndicates' it - all context is lost.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

And to think that there is already another thread, and topic even, where this 'news' (good as it is) should have been posted.

But some people seem to like starting new news threads.
mikesyd
I saw another forum once where the 'thread started by' column had been edited to read look at me mummy!
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Daniel Andrews should hire this crew for maintenance on the Murray basin network.
freightgate
I reckon the little VGR Civil crew has more rail experience than the Martinus Rail consortium has or should I say had!

BG
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I had absolutely NO IDEA where this was until I read the very last line of the attachment...

So feel free to join us tomorrow, 8am from Maldon or 8.45am on site.

Mike.
This is what happens when a site just straight-up rips content from a blog and 're-syndicates' it - all context is lost.
LancedDendrite

No, this is what can happen when publishing sites who are syndicating to US and other sites do not tag their stories best and do not have workable titles.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Daniel Andrews should hire this crew for maintenance on the Murray basin network.
I reckon the little VGR Civil crew has more rail experience than the Martinus Rail consortium has or should I say had!

BG
BrentonGolding

Make sure these guys get the recognition they deserve BG.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
I had absolutely NO IDEA where this was until I read the very last line of the attachment...

So feel free to join us tomorrow, 8am from Maldon or 8.45am on site.

Mike.
This is what happens when a site just straight-up rips content from a blog and 're-syndicates' it - all context is lost.

No, this is what can happen when publishing sites who are syndicating to US and other sites do not tag their stories best and do not have workable titles.
bevans
I believe you are failing to exhibit what is commonly referred to as 'editorial responsibility'. But hey, you're still publishing RRA drivel so I guess I shouldn't at all be surprised...
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Keep the news coming all in one spot.

That is an unkind post.
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

I had absolutely NO IDEA where this was until I read the very last line of the attachment...
This is what happens when a site just straight-up rips content from a blog and 're-syndicates' it - all context is lost.
No, this is what can happen when publishing sites who are syndicating to US and other sites do not tag their stories best and do not have workable titles.
bevans
Don't blame the original writer for you not ensuring that the story (and title) is appropriate for Railpage Australia™.

I think a person ought to be held accountable for what they post.
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

The opening line says something about "VGR Civil", so that is a hint about where it is.

A good story. Extra ballast is always a good thing, the concrete will hold gauge indefinitely, and with the light weight trains there they hopefully won't create mud holes as occurs on most mainlines. Looking at the main lines, the concrete sleepers interspersed with timber doesn't need to form mud holes; where the ballast has been cared for and properly packed it seems to work well. The Main Line (Bendigo - Melbourne) sections with concrete between timber has mostly turned into corrugations (especially around Elphinstone Tunnel), whereas the Swan Hill line remains in excellent condition, a better ride than on much of the Main Line.

After they inserted the concrete between timber on the Swan Hill line a couple of years back, they kept trains at reduced speed for months before another surfacing cycle, then removed the long TSR's (sorry, Temporary Speed Restriction). The track has held up really well since.

Anyone know how the plastic sleepers are doing? I thought they might be another good option for track, and I think some were trialled at Maldon.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
The opening line says something about "VGR Civil", so that is a hint about where it is.

A good story. Extra ballast is always a good thing, the concrete will hold gauge indefinitely, and with the light weight trains there they hopefully won't create mud holes as occurs on most mainlines. Looking at the main lines, the concrete sleepers interspersed with timber doesn't need to form mud holes; where the ballast has been cared for and properly packed it seems to work well. The Main Line (Bendigo - Melbourne) sections with concrete between timber has mostly turned into corrugations (especially around Elphinstone Tunnel), whereas the Swan Hill line remains in excellent condition, a better ride than on much of the Main Line.

After they inserted the concrete between timber on the Swan Hill line a couple of years back, they kept trains at reduced speed for months before another surfacing cycle, then removed the long TSR's (sorry, Temporary Speed Restriction). The track has held up really well since.

Anyone know how the plastic sleepers are doing? I thought they might be another good option for track, and I think some were trialled at Maldon.
hbedriver
Great info HBED, the rough riding around the tunnel is really noticeable ATM.

AFAIK the plastics are holding up OK and would be a really good option for a TSR as they are a better proposition in terms of the way they look, but the problem is cost.

The concretes currently being installed are second hand and are a better option for the VGR currently on the basis of $$$

BG
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
[quote=bevans][quote][quote]Daniel Andrews should hire this crew for maintenance on the Murray basin network.[/quote]I reckon the little VGR Civil crew has more rail experience than the Martinus Rail consortium has or should I say had!

BG[/quote]
Make sure these guys get the recognition they deserve BG.[/quote]Just to clarify I am in no way involved with the Civil blog but I do know who writes it and he does a great job.

In terms of your comment above "No, this is what can happen when publishing sites who are syndicating to US and other sites do not tag their stories best and do not have workable titles" can you elaborate on this for us please. AFAIK the Civil Blog is designed to be an adjunct to the VGR website vgr.com.au and the railway would like people to use the blog via the website to publicize goings on on the railway ie you go to the website to find the blog and see that an Ales on Rails train is running and you buy a ticket.

Did the VGR ask you or anyone else to link to the blog, did they seek for the blog to be syndicated or whatever? I would love to know what the process is for RP to pick up thing like the SRHC blog and VGR Civil Blog.

Don't get me wrong, it is great publicity for the railways involved and good on RP for picking them up, I am just interested in the process in light of your comments in response to LD.

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