Murray Basin standardisation

 
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
And now for the final part of the Safari, Maryborough to Donald.

Photos here : https://flic.kr/s/aHsmiQdc8y

I had only just got to the northern edge of Maryborough when a southbound PN Grain passed me with 4 locos on the front, so I doubled back for a look see. It turned out to be 8142 + BL26 + G520 + G523 + 40 very well decorated hoppers. It gave me a chance to check just how long the passing loop in Maryborough will be - and it seems that 50 hoppers might be about the limit.

The North end of the yard is connected to the Main Line now, but there are a few small gaps in some roads. So there are now 4 tracks in total. Interestingly the points that diverge to the VLocity facility even have provision for a SG rail.

A lit signal still exists about 200m out on the disconnected Castlemaine line.

Dunolly has all been done, the Platform Road has had the 3rd SG rail removed and the old SG grain siding and runaround loop have been disconnected at both ends. I guess the Platform Road will remain as BG only until the Passenger Train issue is sorted out (after the Managatang and Sea Lake lines are converted of course).

St Arnaud has had all roads disconnected, though the unique Water Tank is still there, as is the Turntable.

A Grain Train headed by BL33 and 8143 was at the Donald Grain terminal helping to load about 30 hoppers, and 10 Container Flats were in the yard awaiting loading.

I had a quick look at the Train Park there too.

So that's it. Time will tell if I get to take a Safari to the other two lines, whenever that may be.

EDIT - More photos added as silly me missed most of the Maryborough Yard ones.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Several months have elapsed with PN running the Mildura goods on what seems to be the BG timetable in terms of a single train working in each direction with layover in Melbourne and Mildura meaning we are still running a single set.

The train is usually between 50 and 60 wgaons in length.  

What are the chances of seeing a second train added to the route meaning there is a service departing Mildura each weeknight?  I would have thought there was plenty of loading (since IRONHORSE were always wanting more capacity and PN would not provide it) so let's see the volume grow.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

The points to connect the Southern end of the Maryborough yard to the mainline (just metres North of the Avoca line junction), are being put together ready for installation as I write.

The yard should be ready for use next month apparently.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Interetingly google maps have updated at some stage when the avoca line was lifted and they were reforming the base.  A snapshot in time...
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Interetingly google maps have updated at some stage when the avoca line was lifted and they were reforming the base.  A snapshot in time...
james.au
Good one james, you can see the siding, where they load the ballast, at Bung Bong, also of interest, the Aararat end, you can still see the grain wagons, on the line, just out of town, still the old footage.

BigShunter.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Standard Gauge congestion into Melbourne?

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/43148078950

and then moves

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/44913226352

UP Mildura spent nearly 90 minutes today held at Bunbury Street.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Standard Gauge congestion into Melbourne?

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/43148078950

and then moves

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/44913226352

UP Mildura spent nearly 90 minutes today held at Bunbury Street.
bevans
Certainly looks like it. Totty desperately needs a major rebuild as an SG staging point/stabling for port access.
  Bonzel Locomotive Fireman

Standard Gauge congestion into Melbourne?

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/43148078950

and then moves

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/44913226352

UP Mildura spent nearly 90 minutes today held at Bunbury Street.
Certainly looks like it. Totty desperately needs a major rebuild as an SG staging point/stabling for port access.
potatoinmymouth
Waiting for 6MC2 to Griffith ( which is in next couple of pictures) to vacate the pad roads at App Dock. Nothing else was about so held at signal here instead of at Totty.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Certainly looks like it. Totty desperately needs a major rebuild as an SG staging point/stabling for port access.
Waiting for 6MC2 to Griffith ( which is in next couple of pictures) to vacate the pad roads at App Dock. Nothing else was about so held at signal here instead of at Totty.
Bonzel

Thanks for the insight and both looked healthy trains however I am not seeing any real uplift in traffic for the Mildura line.  The train does not appear to be getting any larger than the BG variant.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
With higher TAL they might be putting more into the containers?  Length.is not the only way of increasing tonnages.

Plus it still takes hours longer than necessary. Compensation may only cover existing traffic not new traffic. Once those hours come out of the timetable my be we will see change?
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Interetingly google maps have updated at some stage when the avoca line was lifted and they were reforming the base.  A snapshot in time...
Good one james, you can see the siding, where they load the ballast, at Bung Bong, also of interest, the Aararat end, you can still see the grain wagons, on the line, just out of town, still the old footage.

BigShunter.
BigShunter
The Aerials (Google Earth) have been updated a couple of times. From Bung Bong to Maryborough was updated some months back, and I advised it then in the Ararat-Maryborough thread I think. Now I can see that the Ararat end has been updated too, goes east as far as about Eversley.

Google Earth is ahead of Google Maps - the latter doesn't have the Ararat update yet.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
An interesting comparison between the GWR gauge conversion and the Mildura gauge conversion.

http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/GWR_Broad001.pdf
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
We should soon expect the first grain train to come our of the border line west of Ouyen soon.  The line has been officially signed off for traffic.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
We should soon expect the first grain train to come our of the border line west of Ouyen soon.  The line has been officially signed off for traffic.
x31
Any why would that be?

Has there been some secret rebuild and conversion in the past 25 days of the disused line from Pinnaroo to Murrayville?

Scroll up and read my post from September 15.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

We should soon expect the first grain train to come our of the border line west of Ouyen soon.  The line has been officially signed off for traffic.
Any why would that be?

Has there been some secret rebuild and conversion in the past 25 days of the disused line from Pinnaroo to Murrayville?

Scroll up and read my post from September 15.
mikesyd
It's not impossible to read x31's message as describing the line to(wards) the border, with grain coming from west of Ouyen. However it's just as likely that the line has been signed off, but there's no grain to transport from anywhere west of Ouyen until after the coming harvest, by which time the line might have been booked out due to disuse...
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
True, could be interpreted that way too.

Also depends on just how much grain is currently at Murrayville and Underbool too - I didn't check when passing.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
It's not impossible to read x31's message as describing the line to(wards) the border, with grain coming from west of Ouyen.
duttonbay
Thats how i interpreted it.

Given it would have been cut off at the time of the Mildura conversion it may be there are some tonnes to collect from there.

Follow on, how do trains turn around at Ouyen?  Is there space there in a yard?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

At last!

An occupation has been scheduled for next weekend, following which a 651m loop track will be available for Down trains at Maryborough.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
At last!

An occupation has been scheduled for next weekend, following which a 651m loop track will be available for Down trains at Maryborough.
potatoinmymouth

Is the loop track a part of the yard layout?

This is good news.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Is the loop track a part of the yard layout?
bevans

Yes, it will be the only yard road available. Two other roads will be retained and may apparently be commissioned at a later date.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
651 metres will fit about 29 x 20 metre container flats and 3 engines or something around 39 grain hoppers and 3 locos.

If it's a loop what is the significance of 'will be available for Down trains' or am I looking for the inevitable 'catch' ?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

If it's a loop what is the significance of 'will be available for Down trains' or am I looking for the inevitable 'catch' ?
YM-Mundrabilla

I do hate to ruin your night Yardmaster...

It will be available only for Down trains.
  Rossco T Chief Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
At last!

An occupation has been scheduled for next weekend, following which a 651m loop track will be available for Down trains at Maryborough.
potatoinmymouth

Will the new loop be SG or DG?

Ross
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Can someone remind me what way down is in Victoria?  Up/Down is something i just can't keep in my head (and I know it is different in NSW which is probably part of the confusion....).
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

At last!

An occupation has been scheduled for next weekend, following which a 651m loop track will be available for Down trains at Maryborough.

Will the new loop be SG or DG?

Ross
Rossco T
SG, to the best of my knowledge.

Can someone remind me what way down is in Victoria?
james.au
Down is away from Melbourne, Up is toward Melbourne. The situation is the same in NSW, but with Sydney as the central location.

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