High Capacity Metro Trains (HCMT) Order

 
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Trapped in a meeting with Rhonda and Karsten
This may have already been covered but will they still be able to run 6 car trains through the Metro Tunnel stopping all stations (especially Comeng trains)? How will they stop at the platform screen doors?
reubstar6
Only HCMTs will be permitted to run revenue services through the Metro Tunnel. The HCMT contract should have enough trainsets delivered to saturate the Sunbury and Cranbourne/Pakenham lines before the Metro Tunnel opens, so this won't be an issue.

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  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
This may have already been covered but will they still be able to run 6 car trains through the Metro Tunnel stopping all stations (especially Comeng trains)? How will they stop at the platform screen doors?
reubstar6
No. The metro tunnel is designed for the HCMT
  L1150 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Pakenham Vic.
Went for a quick train ride yesterday from Pakenham to Garfield and back to check the progress of the maintenance facility at Pak East's connection to the main line. Points have been installed, but apart from a few metres of track connected to these points, there isn't even the formation to connect the track to the tracks inside the depot.  The bases of the overhead beams have been cast but there is no sign of the poles or wiring from Pakenham yet.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Looks like more HCMT related works will be taking place this weekend between Caulfield - Richmond. Pakenham/Cranbourne trains will be terminating at Caulfield for the whole weekend with passengers obviously transferring to Frankston trains.  An amount of equipment and vehicles have been assembling at the old Malvern Sidings workbase. I'm guessing this is for more of the usual; digging overhead foundations, assembling overhead stanchions (possibly on some station platforms) and digging signalling conduits. The work seems to be accelerating. I also suspect they will be working on platform extensions at Caulfield and South Yarra.
  stooge spark Train Controller

L1150, can you even see the depot from the train?
Iirc I saw the depot from the Princes freeway and the building looked like the shed was taking shape.
  L1150 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Pakenham Vic.
L1150, can you even see the depot from the train?
Iirc I saw the depot from the Princes freeway and the building looked like the shed was taking shape.
stooge spark
Yes, The line side scrub does obscure the view a bit, but there are enough breaks to get a fairly good look at the site. It's pretty big with lots of tracks and some large buildings.Very Happy
  drunkill Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia
South Yarra platform extensions are underway as seen in the video from gunzelinformer:



https://youtu.be/SnjPxz-3xFI?t=107
  n459L1150 Train Controller

Location: at sunbury on a V/line service into melbourne, waiting for thousands of impatient people to get on
a couple of weeks ago metro were installing new signals for the HCMT between south yarra and caulfield
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
a couple of weeks ago metro were installing new signals for the HCMT between south yarra and caulfield
n459L1150
When the high capacity signalling is installed and HCMTs running on the Sunbury and other lines but BEFORE the MM1 tunnel opens will they make a difference to linespeed or just frequency?

I am thinking of places where there is an conflict between Metro and V/Line services such as on the Sunbury line between SBY and Up side of Albion, will some of that conflict be resolved by the combination of signalling improvements and new rolling stock?

BG
  nozza99 Station Master

Location: Warrnambool, Vic
a couple of weeks ago metro were installing new signals for the HCMT between south yarra and caulfield
When the high capacity signalling is installed and HCMTs running on the Sunbury and other lines but BEFORE the MM1 tunnel opens will they make a difference to linespeed or just frequency?

I am thinking of places where there is an conflict between Metro and V/Line services such as on the Sunbury line between SBY and Up side of Albion, will some of that conflict be resolved by the combination of signalling improvements and new rolling stock?

BG
BrentonGolding

On the Pakenham Line I'd say yes.
Upgraded Signalling will allow for lower headways and higher speeds, especially for V/Line trains

On Sunbury Line no.
No HCMTs until the tunnel opens and upgraded signalling around that time.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Here's the link showing the Sunbury upgrades, but yes only after the tunnel opens in 2025.

https://metrotunnel.vic.gov.au/planning/planning-scheme-amendments/ria-and-rsa-gc96
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Photos on the Vicsig Facebook group show the first completed HCMT having “test train” decals applied to the doors.

Looks like it will almost certainly be out and about by the election.
  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
any chance of posting a picture here?

Neil
  NR61 Station Staff

Here, right off VicSig

  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Thanks, I can never seem to get photos to work on here.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
It's right next to the Williamstown line.

by Gauntlet, on Flickr
  John.Z Chief Train Controller

Is the full 7 Car Train on the tracks, or is the back half still to be added?
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
Is the full 7 Car Train on the tracks, or is the back half still to be added?
John.Z
I'm not sure how many car I saw, but the end of the train was hidden by the shed in the Vicsig photo.
There were also at least eight shells wrapped in plastic and on yellow stands near North Williamstown station.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
Is the full 7 Car Train on the tracks, or is the back half still to be added?
I'm not sure how many car I saw, but the end of the train was hidden by the shed in the Vicsig photo.
There were also at least eight shells wrapped in plastic and on yellow stands near North Williamstown station.
Gauntlet
Corrrection: There's five carriages visible from the train (and I shouldn't have tried to take video and photos at the same time).


https://youtu.be/-LinGCutvws
  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
Logically (and that's dangerous to apply here), if they're applying "test train" stickers to these cars then if the train doesn't consist of all seven then it very soon will.
The first photo posted here shows only two cars projecting beyond the intervening building. Later ones show three or four and Gauntlet's video clearly shows five. They were adding to it so it has extended further past the point it was first photographed.
(Once again, thanks Gauntlet. Your videos are really enlightening.)
We will see it out and about very soon unless something on it goes seriously wrong.

Neil
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Logically (and that's dangerous to apply here), if they're applying "test train" stickers to these cars then if the train doesn't consist of all seven then it very soon will.
The first photo posted here shows only two cars projecting beyond the intervening building. Later ones show three or four and Gauntlet's video clearly shows five. They were adding to it so it has extended further past the point it was first photographed.
(Once again, thanks Gauntlet. Your videos are really enlightening.)
We will see it out and about very soon unless something on it goes seriously wrong.

Neil
ngarner
The original photos I saw on Vicsig had only four cars so they're obviously putting together a whole train. Logic is indeed dangerous in the wrong hands but it appears we have followed all proper procedures here and will be safe as a result.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Lots of work has been taking place between Caulfield - Richmond this weekend.  While I didn't get to see some of it, I saw enough indirectly. Massive overhead stanchions were being built near the Glenferrie Rd Bridge in the old Malvern Sidings area.  I had been curious for some weeks about the foundations that had been built opposite each other - then noticed this week that overhead structures were being installed on them.  Along with a heavy-lift Metcalf Crane that had been parked next to the line. On Friday I spotted workers fitting isolators to some very big spans that I assume were lifted into place on the weekend (I'll know when I take the train to work tomorrow). My assumption is that a new substation is going to be built in the sidings area near the current tramway substation. There's two of these spans being installed.

Further along the line near the Kooyong Rd bridge in Armadale, two additional blocky foundations had been built on the Frankston line side of the corridor. I'm also curious as to what these are as they have circular bolts sticking out of them. There has been no work to build foundations on the brickwork side of the cutting as far as I can tell. I'm guessing that numerous other stanchions were installed up and down the line on both sides over the weekend. No new wiring as yet.

I also spotted work taking place at Richmond with new overhead foundations being dug although it was a bit difficult to tell exactly what they were doing - I was in a Burnley group line train at the time.  Great to see this work happening.

On a side note, work seems to be ramping up near South Yarra for the Metro Tunnel entrance that is going to be built there. I've read on the Metro Tunnel website pages that work is gearing up for a major shutdown over the January break so that major work can commence in the location including demolishing the William St bridge, demising a brick retaining wall on the south side near Chapel St, and staring to widen the corridor to handle six tracks and the decline structure.

Edited to include some tweets from @trainspotter67 who took pictures of the new spans at Malvern - they are very big!


  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

The Premier has got the media down to Newport today to declare the first train complete. No big red curtain like the VLo launch all those years ago, sadly, but certainly explains the hurry in getting the Test Train stickers on. I suspect it will be out and about very very soon.
  g00r Locomotive Fireman

Not to jinx things, but I guess the clock also starts on who can tag this shiny new asset with their indecipherable dribble first, also begins
  Boss 2 Station Staff

The Premier has got the media down to Newport today to declare the first train complete. No big red curtain like the VLo launch all those years ago, sadly, but certainly explains the hurry in getting the Test Train stickers on. I suspect it will be out and about very very soon.
potatoinmymouth
pity it didn't seem to have any seats

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