Melbourne Suburban Disruptions (Since Metro Introduction)

 
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

It's Melbourne Cup day...

1) It rains a lot in Melbourne - check.
2) Flemington line falls apart/floods - check.

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  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
This is what they are up to:




I've seen Comengs go through deeper water than that.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Some sort of incident at Croydon this arvo. Rumour has it the back half of an XTrap has grown a mind of its own.

Likely to be buried in news media under the more serious incident in Bourke St, however, and rightly so.
  bramt Deputy Commissioner

Any more info on this?
Did an xtrap separate into 2 3 car sets enroute?
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
All I noted on that day were a couple of Ventura buses heading down Ringwood St past Eastland and simply thought "more buses on the Lilydale line yet again" as it happens so often, I didn't even think of a train fault.
  ShaneB Locomotive Driver

All I noted on that day were a couple of Ventura buses heading down Ringwood St past Eastland and simply thought "more buses on the Lilydale line yet again" as it happens so often, I didn't even think of a train fault.
Heihachi_73



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  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

Did this even make any of the mainstream media?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Did this even make any of the mainstream media?
Madjikthise
On the 3AW rumour file this morning 12/11.
Does Transport Safety Vic (whatever they are called today) investigate and report on incidents like this (haha).
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Did this even make any of the mainstream media?
On the 3AW rumour file this morning 12/11.
Does Transport Safety Vic (whatever they are called today) investigate and report on incidents like this (haha).
YM-Mundrabilla
Office of the Chief Investigator Transport Safety.

or...

OCITS Smile

I'd be stunned if they didn't have a good look at this. It's a pretty serious incident.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Metro website says Epping line disabled. No trains and no overhead power on the line.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

And dramas on the South eastern lines too:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/commuter-pain-as-major-train-lines-grind-to-a-halt-20181112-p50flt.html


So Melbourne has a warm day and the system melts down...
  712M Chief Commissioner

And dramas on the South eastern lines too:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/commuter-pain-as-major-train-lines-grind-to-a-halt-20181112-p50flt.html


So Melbourne has a warm day and the system melts down...
Carnot
There were reports of some trains taking 1 hour and 25 minutes to travel from Flinders Street to Richmond due to a backlog of trains queued around the City Loop and back out to the suburbs. Whilst the fault at Hawksburn occurred just before 5pm, major delays continued up until the last services last night.
  mike49 Station Master

Wouldn't it be nice if both the government & opposition took more interest in getting the existing rail network to operate satisfactorily rather than promising to spend unfunded billions on fantasy projects.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

The Age has picked up the uncoupling story, fortunately. The ATSB is investigating. Metro have required all set coupling moves to be attended by two drivers instead of one.

The driver had a decouple warning light at Melbourne Central but was told to ignore it. Apparently "Metro's internal systems" saw the carriages as properly coupled.

The front set travelled 300m before the driver became aware of the separation and braked. (Says a lot about XTrap ride quality!!)

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/train-splits-in-two-after-driver-told-to-ignore-decoupling-warning-20181113-p50fqc.html

This is a big incident. Together with a couple of major meltdowns in recent weeks, there's shades of the Connex collapse that brought down the Brumby government in 2010.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
The front set travelled 300m before the driver became aware of the separation and braked. (Says a lot about XTrap ride quality!!)
potatoinmymouth
Question without notice to the Safe Working experts out there - if the front half of the train had travelled past the next signal / section could that have set the stick behind it to Caution and allowed a following train to enter the section where the stranded 3 were or would axle counters or similar have picked up the problem and shown a full course Red aspect?

BG
  TheMeddlingMonk Deputy Commissioner

Location: The Time Vortex near Melbourne, Australia
The front set travelled 300m before the driver became aware of the separation and braked. (Says a lot about XTrap ride quality!!)
Question without notice to the Safe Working experts out there - if the front half of the train had travelled past the next signal / section could that have set the stick behind it to Caution and allowed a following train to enter the section where the stranded 3 were or would axle counters or similar have picked up the problem and shown a full course Red aspect?

BG
BrentonGolding
I am not a safe working expert, but from my understanding if axle counters are in use in this section, the significant difference between the number of wheelsets entering the block vs those leaving would have prevented the block being marked as unoccupied. If track circuits were in use, then again, the block would have shown as occupied.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

The Age has picked up the uncoupling story, fortunately. The ATSB is investigating. Metro have required all set coupling moves to be attended by two drivers instead of one.

The driver had a decouple warning light at Melbourne Central but was told to ignore it. Apparently "Metro's internal systems" saw the carriages as properly coupled.

The front set travelled 300m before the driver became aware of the separation and braked. (Says a lot about XTrap ride quality!!)

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/train-splits-in-two-after-driver-told-to-ignore-decoupling-warning-20181113-p50fqc.html

This is a big incident. Together with a couple of major meltdowns in recent weeks, there's shades of the Connex collapse that brought down the Brumby government in 2010.
potatoinmymouth
It raises lots of questions about "Metro's Internal Systems".  More fuel to the fire in the RTBU's ongoing battle with MTM...
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Did this even make any of the mainstream media?
On the 3AW rumour file this morning 12/11.
Does Transport Safety Vic (whatever they are called today) investigate and report on incidents like this (haha).
Office of the Chief Investigator Transport Safety.

or...

OCITS Smile

I'd be stunned if they didn't have a good look at this. It's a pretty serious incident.
potatoinmymouth
Where are their investigations and reports published, please?

Not saying that they are not there somewhere but the most recent report would seem to be an incident in July 2016.

Thankfully the back half stopped before the front half.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Did this even make any of the mainstream media?
On the 3AW rumour file this morning 12/11.
Does Transport Safety Vic (whatever they are called today) investigate and report on incidents like this (haha).
Office of the Chief Investigator Transport Safety.

or...

OCITS Smile

I'd be stunned if they didn't have a good look at this. It's a pretty serious incident.
Where are their investigations and reports published, please?

Not saying that they are not there somewhere but the most recent report would seem to be an incident in July 2016.

Thankfully the back half stopped before the front half.
YM-Mundrabilla
That is interesting YM. Perhaps Victoria has handed over its investigative branch to the feds at last?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Did this even make any of the mainstream media?
On the 3AW rumour file this morning 12/11.
Does Transport Safety Vic (whatever they are called today) investigate and report on incidents like this (haha).
Office of the Chief Investigator Transport Safety.

or...

OCITS Smile

I'd be stunned if they didn't have a good look at this. It's a pretty serious incident.
Where are their investigations and reports published, please?

Not saying that they are not there somewhere but the most recent report would seem to be an incident in July 2016.

Thankfully the back half stopped before the front half.
That is interesting YM. Perhaps Victoria has handed over its investigative branch to the feds at last?
potatoinmymouth
Or perhaps 'burying the problem/investigation' of incidents and reports thereon is embarrassing to Metro and the government.

Handing over to the ATSB is tantamount to 'burying the problem' given the years that it usually takes them to investigate just about anything. Doesn't appear on the ATSB website (as yet, perhaps)!

It would appear that the ATSB currently has 33 'Rail' investigations 'on the go' the oldest being December 2015 (~ 3 years ago)
  ShaneB Locomotive Driver

Another incident on the Ringwood group of lines. Not content with last weeks train separation, this weeks issue was blowing up at least the front motor with a displaced or damaged overhead line at Tecoma that required three fire stations to attend. This happened at about 2:30pm and buses ran until after midnight.

  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Munted! Love it! Haven't heard that one for yonks.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Munted! Love it! Haven't heard that one for yonks.
BrentonGolding
We are the West Island after all but most of us would have a more colourful word with the same second and last two letters.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Here comes the weather expect the delays.

Mernda already with minor delays a train cancelled
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Could somebody get the Head Honchos of Metro to visit my area today or during the week? They will see the number 11 tram route with bus substitutions, due to maintenance work on the tramlines between West Preston and Scotchmer Street Fitzroy North.
In recent months there have been no "track faults", "equipment failures" or any other such occurrences. No; Yarra Trams is just doing Preventative Maintenance. It would be educational for Metro to come and learn what that term actually means.

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