High Capacity Metro Trains (HCMT) Order

 
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

Their is a major occupation coming up over the month of December to finalise the connection of Pakenham East Depot, Signalling and Power upgrades.

I suspect that we shall start seeing them being transferred in January. Which will mean their would be two units for testing with a third coming online.

Which allows time for the PE depot to be finished over the course of 2019.

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  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
The depot was supposed to be complete by the end of this year https://economicdevelopment.vic.gov.au/about-us/news/new-pakenham-train-depot-delivers-hundreds-of-local-jobs#
The project timeline on the HCMT Big Build page https://bigbuild.vic.gov.au/projects/high-capacity-metro-trains suggests it is almost finished but it is noticeable that there have been no updates recently, unlike the first half of the year where they provided drone and other footage of the progress.

Neil
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

The depot was supposed to be complete by the end of this year https://economicdevelopment.vic.gov.au/about-us/news/new-pakenham-train-depot-delivers-hundreds-of-local-jobs#
The project timeline on the HCMT Big Build page https://bigbuild.vic.gov.au/projects/high-capacity-metro-trains suggests it is almost finished but it is noticeable that there have been no updates recently, unlike the first half of the year where they provided drone and other footage of the progress.

Neil
ngarner
Yes, I noticed this too. It's not good - that was the first clue something was amiss on the Murray Basin project.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
The depot was supposed to be complete by the end of this year https://economicdevelopment.vic.gov.au/about-us/news/new-pakenham-train-depot-delivers-hundreds-of-local-jobs#
The project timeline on the HCMT Big Build page https://bigbuild.vic.gov.au/projects/high-capacity-metro-trains suggests it is almost finished but it is noticeable that there have been no updates recently, unlike the first half of the year where they provided drone and other footage of the progress.

Neil
Yes, I noticed this too. It's not good - that was the first clue something was amiss on the Murray Basin project.
potatoinmymouth
Or, maybe the nerd with the drone was actually compelled to do some real work for once, instead of being paid to fluff around.
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
The last set of videos on the Rail Projects Victoria YouTube went out on October 29, the last day before caretaker conventions kicked in. I don't think it would be unusual for the Premier's media people to have a role in producing the videos, so during the caretaker period I would imagine that they wouldn't produce anything beyond necessary travel advice.

Transport for Victoria post less frequently and would probably be in the same boat - the media people would have a role in producing the videos for publication and nothing can be done this month. Given that the last one was for Quarter 1, and videos for Quarter 2 or 3 weren't published, they might have decided that the drone flyovers as a progress report just aren't worth it.
  GoldenGirl Locomotive Fireman

The depot was supposed to be complete by the end of this year https://economicdevelopment.vic.gov.au/about-us/news/new-pakenham-train-depot-delivers-hundreds-of-local-jobs#
The project timeline on the HCMT Big Build page https://bigbuild.vic.gov.au/projects/high-capacity-metro-trains suggests it is almost finished but it is noticeable that there have been no updates recently, unlike the first half of the year where they provided drone and other footage of the progress.

Neil
Yes, I noticed this too. It's not good - that was the first clue something was amiss on the Murray Basin project.
Or, maybe the nerd with the drone was actually compelled to do some real work for once, instead of being paid to fluff around.
DirtyBallast
As my husband was one of the 'nerds with a drone' providing people with periodic updates, I take exception to this rude post.
  thekingoffoxes Chief Train Controller

The depot was supposed to be complete by the end of this year https://economicdevelopment.vic.gov.au/about-us/news/new-pakenham-train-depot-delivers-hundreds-of-local-jobs#
The project timeline on the HCMT Big Build page https://bigbuild.vic.gov.au/projects/high-capacity-metro-trains suggests it is almost finished but it is noticeable that there have been no updates recently, unlike the first half of the year where they provided drone and other footage of the progress.

Neil
Yes, I noticed this too. It's not good - that was the first clue something was amiss on the Murray Basin project.
Or, maybe the nerd with the drone was actually compelled to do some real work for once, instead of being paid to fluff around.
As my husband was one of the 'nerds with a drone' providing people with periodic updates, I take exception to this rude post.
GoldenGirl
Speak his name and he shall appear Laughing



https://youtu.be/xK3n4IP-KmI
  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
Thanks kingoffoxes, much appreciated.
Well, looks like Lockie91 is correct in it being a 2019 completion. There's been a lot of work done but there are enough obvious things incomplete to put opening past the web site date.

Neil
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Great video, thanks for sharing. Smile
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

Thanks kingoffoxes, much appreciated.
Well, looks like Lockie91 is correct in it being a 2019 completion. There's been a lot of work done but there are enough obvious things incomplete to put opening past the web site date.

Neil
ngarner
My understanding from those within the CD9 project are that HCMT's will being being stabled here in January after the December shutdown. This will allow for power upgrade works to be completed.

HCMTS need to be progressively moved here due to the capacity constraints at Newport.

The Pakenham East workshops, wheel lathe, wash and simulators will all come on line next year as the HCMTS roll out of Newport. Finishing works such as landscaping will continue until the end of 2019. I believe that Newport is delivering 1 unit per month until 2024/25. Capacity a Pakenham east is aprox 40 units. So still a few years before it reaches its full potential.

Questions that still have not been answered.
Calder Park construction date?
What happens to Westall?
Where are the Comeng's being displaced to?
Additional stabling to accommodate this?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
What is a 'unit', please?
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

Sorry, Train set. Or train.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
The depot was supposed to be complete by the end of this year https://economicdevelopment.vic.gov.au/about-us/news/new-pakenham-train-depot-delivers-hundreds-of-local-jobs#
The project timeline on the HCMT Big Build page https://bigbuild.vic.gov.au/projects/high-capacity-metro-trains suggests it is almost finished but it is noticeable that there have been no updates recently, unlike the first half of the year where they provided drone and other footage of the progress.

Neil
Yes, I noticed this too. It's not good - that was the first clue something was amiss on the Murray Basin project.
Or, maybe the nerd with the drone was actually compelled to do some real work for once, instead of being paid to fluff around.
As my husband was one of the 'nerds with a drone' providing people with periodic updates, I take exception to this rude post.
GoldenGirl
No probs.

So what was the reason for the delay???
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Exciting news!

This Thursday, at 12.01am, HCMT 1 will leave Newport for a tour of the network with 22 wagons for braking.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Exciting news!

This Thursday, at 12.01am, HCMT 1 will leave Newport for a tour of the network with 22 wagons for braking.
potatoinmymouth
Stoopid question:

How will this work, please?
Any details please like how does one run around 22 wagons??
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Afraid that’s all I have, YM; that and the motive power will be SSR’s Ts or Ss.
  Codie Burns Beginner

also think it will be left at Pakenham after the move.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Afraid that’s all I have, YM; that and the motive power will be SSR’s Ts or Ss.
potatoinmymouth
Thanks PIMM.
If it needs 22 wagons trailing it sounds as if the HCMT will be unbraked.

EDIT: 29/11.
Obviously not the case as there were no wagons trailing the spark. The grain hoppers remain a mystery (to me anyway) but there must be a reason.
  wanabetraindrvr Junior Train Controller

just had a look at the circular , it will be picked up tonight by ssr using 2 s class and 2 t class and all the other wagons . should arrive thru pakenham around 3 am . its scheduled to have several stops for inspections and once arrives will be put away in pakenham east till the next night when it will be brought back again
  wanabetraindrvr Junior Train Controller

Newport Workshops (Rd 1) dep 00 00 S317 + 9 x BGGX + 10 x BGKF, 1 x CGGY, 1 x BHBF + S302 + T385 + T386 + BVDY51 + 7 x EMU Carriages Newport (PL 1) arr 00 04 Inspect EMU set. dep 00 24 Footscray arr 00 37 Inspect EMU set. dep 00 47 TS South Kensington 00 58 MS North Melbourne 01 03 Franklin Street 01 06 Southern Cross (PL 11) arr 01 09 Inspect EMU set. dep 01 19 NV Flinders Street (PL 7) arr --- DOWN 7501 Flinders Street (PL 7) dep 01 23 CL South Yarra arr 01 30 Inspect EMU set. dep 01 45 Caulfield 01 57 Westall 02 15 Dandenong arr 02 29 Inspect EMU set. dep 02 39 Berwick 02 58 Pakenham 03 17 Enter Absolute Occupation between Pakenham and Pakenham East Depot. Pakenham East Depot arr 04 05 Exit occupation. Detach EMU Carriages.
  wanabetraindrvr Junior Train Controller

THURSDAY 29 TH NOVEMBER 2018 PAKENHAM EAST DEPOT – FLINDERS STREET – ARRIVAL YARDS UP 7500 Pakenham East Depot 23 59 Prepare for return of haulage train. S317 + 9 x BGGX + 10 x BGKF, 1 x CGGY, 1 x BHBF + S302 + T385 + T386 + BVDY51 NEXT DAY Pakenham East Depot dep 02 20 Enter Absolute Occupation between Pakenham East Depot and Pakenham. Pakenham 02 30 Exit occupation. Berwick 02 41 Dandenong 02 51 Caulfield 03 08 CL Richmond Junction 03 17 Flinders Street (PL 7) arr 03 20 DOWN 5449 Flinders Street (PL 7) dep 03 22 TS Viaduct Junction 03 25 G Southern Cross 03 26 BW West Tower 03 29 Arrivals Yard arr 03 35 Detach haulage train into two parts: (1) T385 + T386 + BVDY51 (2) S317 + 9 x BGGX + 10 x BGKF, 1 x CGGY, 1 x BHBF + S302 DOWN 7071 Arrivals Yard dep 04 00 T385 + T386 + BVDY51 West Tower 04 03 South Dynon arr 04 10 Stable locos. DOWN 7011 Arrivals Yard dep 04 05 S317 + 9 x BGGX + 10 x BGKF, 1 x CGGY, 1 x BHBF + S302 West Tower 04 08 G Spion Kop 04 13 BS Kensington (PL 2) dep 04 15 Kensington Grain Sidings arr 04 25 Stable train.
  Divine3801 Station Staff

I wish everyone the best, in going to see it. Hopefully you can still be on the new station platforms when it goes through.

Big Salute to everyone that is going there at such short notice tonight (Thursday 29th) to catch it.

Your all greatly encouraged to put up some youtube links, image galleries if you wish.
  drunkill Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia
My terrible photos.

At speed, at night with a mobile phone camera, this is the result.

  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Here is a tweet from Marcus Wong with photos from Newport & Footscray last night showing the first stages of the HCMT move:
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

My terrible photos.

At speed, at night with a mobile phone camera, this is the result.

drunkill
Awful they may be but if I was a Labor apparatchik I would have been standing in exactly the same spot as you with a camera crew. Those photos pretty much sum up the incredible level of investment we're seeing in rail.

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