Re Opening & Upgrading Maryborough - Avoca - Ararat

 
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Yes, the Rail Tram and Bus Union Victorian Loco Division publishes that.

It’s a bit of a gold mine for us outsiders and I dare say they’re more than a little brave making it publicly available given the usual secrecy that surrounds rail ops.

A good article though and clearly detailing the inability of those responsible to understand that a railway is not much good if no one can use it.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
NSP = Network Service Plan

Just because something is signed off on doesn't mean that it can't have a myriad of TSRs.

As I posted a while back there was one near the Taradale Viaduct a while back that had all services on the Bendigo line slowing to a crawl due to track geometry issues. Took weeks to fix.

BG
BrentonGolding

Agree but it seems odd to my way of thinking that V/Line would approve this track for traffic when there are so many issues at the hands of the contractors?

I would expect V/Line to enforce a warranty programme.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Agree but it seems odd to my way of thinking that V/Line would approve this track for traffic when there are so many issues at the hands of the contractors?

I would expect V/Line to enforce a warranty programme.
bevans
Hasn't the contractor been sacked? The fact that the Gov has seen fit to let the contractor go suggests that they had no confidence that the contractor could or would finish the job, leaving alone the should.

This could be for a variety of reasons, the contractor could have just declared bankruptcy (single use company set up for this project only?), the Gov may have concluded that the consortium lacks the true expertise to finish it or the Gov has been advised that the contract itself was so badly drawn up that the contractor can legally claim to have done the job to the spec provided or any number of other scenarios. Maybe even that V/Line should have been taking a more active oversight role so as to have picked up problems and dealt with them early on instead of waiting till the project was supposed to have been finished to wander out and take a look!

I am not sure whether the Government is interested in chasing companies down rabbit holes, I would be interested in someone with more knowledge than me giving an insight into what may go on behind closed doors.

I would have thought that the consortium would have been required to have insurance against non delivery so that makes me lean towards something more than just a bodge job but we will probably never know, after all we are just the poor mugs who pay for it!

BG
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
NSP = Network Service Plan

Just because something is signed off on doesn't mean that it can't have a myriad of TSRs.

As I posted a while back there was one near the Taradale Viaduct a while back that had all services on the Bendigo line slowing to a crawl due to track geometry issues. Took weeks to fix.

BG

Agree but it seems odd to my way of thinking that V/Line would approve this track for traffic when there are so many issues at the hands of the contractors?

I would expect V/Line to enforce a warranty programme.
bevans
Politics and political perceptions!
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Yes, the Rail Tram and Bus Union Victorian Loco Division publishes that.

It’s a bit of a gold mine for us outsiders and I dare say they’re more than a little brave making it publicly available given the usual secrecy that surrounds rail ops.

A good article though and clearly detailing the inability of those responsible to understand that a railway is not much good if no one can use it.
potatoinmymouth
There is an entire page of that mag on PDF on the Rail, Tram and Bus Union Victorian Loco Division Website

http://www.rtbuvicloco.com.au/locolines-magazines/
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Its almost a year since my last Safari, so I had a another look at the line on Monday.

Photos here : https://www.flickr.com/gp/mikesydney/6E1k4D

In Ararat, nothing much has happened on the Maroona Loop / Triangle area, though the basic earthwork for the path has been cleared. The diamond crossing is still sitting there while the decision makers wring hands. I also had a look at the Vincent Street Bridge.

The section between Grano Street and the Yard is still mostly on Timber Sleepers, though there is some Concrete mixed in.

At Hopkins River Road, I noticed a well secured Generator humming away beside the Level Crossing - it would seem that power isn't available there yet.

Work was going on at a Level Crossing west of Ben Nevis and Stop signs were in place on the track from the level Crossing either side.

Some unprotected level Crossings seem to have been designed for the eventual installation of Flashing lights, Bells and perhaps even booms - the pads are in place with cables poking out.

A Block Point has been established just east of Elmhurst at Wiltshire Lane.

Bung Bong siding has been removed, though it looks like Ballast may have been loaded there during the work judging by whats left on the ground.

There are now two signals on the approach to Maryborough, one at the Pyrenees Highway and another just before Derby Road. The old signal just before the Junction has been removed.

There is no connection at the south end of Maryborough to the yard, and the move of the SG rail just prior to the platform has been moved south of the Inkerman Street Crossing.

Just as I was leaving Maryborough for Donald yesterday I passed a PN Grain Train headed by 4 locos, so backtracked to get some photos.

I will include the rest of Maryborough in a separate post in the MB thread that covers the line as far as Donald.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Pics on facebook show the diamond has been installed at Ararat.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
When I mentioned the matter a week or so back, I was going to here, but didn't as the Ballarat thread had been hijacked with the news.

And yes, I have seen the photo too.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
When I mentioned the matter a week or so back, I was going to here, but didn't as the Ballarat thread had been hijacked with the news.

And yes, I have seen the photo too.
mikesyd
I saw that too but decided that Ararat wasn't in Ballarat and therefore hijacked it back Wink
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Would either of you two, post the link or the picture/s, please, be great to see.

BigShunter.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Thanks Mikesyd for posting.
An interesting trail of 'oil/grease pollution' in the first pic on page 2. - Ararat.
Is this on the BG, please?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
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Hopefully that works?
  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
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Hopefully that works?
james.au
sorry, not for me.
As a suggestion, try copying the url from the original source then pasting that with the link button (tell me if I'm stataing the obvious!)

Neil
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
The link probably won't work for many as it is in a FB group that requires sign-in.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Thanks Mikesyd for posting.
An interesting trail of 'oil/grease pollution' in the first pic on page 2. - Ararat.
Is this on the BG, please?
YM-Mundrabilla
The overhead photo? Was taken from the Vincent Street Bridge - looking West - SG.

Yes, something had been leaking.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
For those without FB and who are curious....I posted this (taken back in September, it is in the link a few posts up) in the Ballarat thread, and the photo since seen on FB confirms my thinking. The new diamond is in - just across the BG (RH track here) and not connected to the SG. It is located at about where the tracks diverge. They may have some 'fun' when the SG turnout goes in as the 'cant' begins at about where it will be.

https://flic.kr/p/MpHnxg
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Thanks Mikesyd for posting.
An interesting trail of 'oil/grease pollution' in the first pic on page 2. - Ararat.
Is this on the BG, please?
The overhead photo? Was taken from the Vincent Street Bridge - looking West - SG.

Yes, something had been leaking.
mikesyd
Many thanks.
Good pics are the next best thing to actually being there. Smile
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Thanks Mikesyd for posting.
An interesting trail of 'oil/grease pollution' in the first pic on page 2. - Ararat.
Is this on the BG, please?
The overhead photo? Was taken from the Vincent Street Bridge - looking West - SG.

Yes, something had been leaking.
Many thanks.
Good pics are the next best thing to actually being there. Smile
YM-Mundrabilla
I keep a 7 year old Sony DSC-H9XV for when I have the need as taking lots of photos from a phone tends to drain the battery quite fast, not to mention the quality. It has served me well and fits in a pocket. I am no 'Photo Guru' though and the 'experts' would pick the quality of mine to bits - not that I care.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Try this

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pDQNJRWP3fGKq4nwFcmgdmsjLEfttNgs

All credit to Stuart Cray in Victorian Railway Enthusiasts

(BTW join the group, its not a bad little group - they seem to keep their foam at the door and for other groups)

Also, if you are willing to, RRA has on their FB page some images too but they are as usual not happy with it.
  Bonzel Locomotive Fireman

A point has been installed (i don`t know when) roughly halfway between Grano St and Ararat yard . These points are facing trains ex Maryborough RH leg connected and through to Ararat yard and westward , left leg not connected but earth works have it connecting to new dg diamond installed in bg line from Ballarat and points to be installed in sg mainline .
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

A point has been installed (i don`t know when) roughly halfway between Grano St and Ararat yard . These points are facing trains ex Maryborough RH leg connected and through to Ararat yard and westward , left leg not connected but earth works have it connecting to new dg diamond installed in bg line from Ballarat and points to be installed in sg mainline .
Bonzel
So far 1.  VLP installed new mixed gauge diamond in the bg track just on Down side of Alfred St level crossing .
        2.  VLP installed new standard gauge turnout in Maryborough "goat track" just on the Up side of Grano St level crossing .
             Straight is towards Maroona, right curve into Ararat Yard . Currently fixed towards Ararat Yard ,
        3.  Late January  ARTC doing signalling works between Pyrenees Loop - Ararat - Maroona on Adelaide mainline.
        4.  Late  January at same time  turnout facing Down trains from Maroona goes into Adelaide mainline just on down                      side of the Alfred St crossing .

        Further stages to come  -  V/Line to link Grano St turnout across the new mixed gauge diamond to the new turnout in            the Adelaide mainline towards Maroona.

        Completion of and commissioning of associated signalling works .

        Western area spies any sign of VLP actually laying the track between Grano St and the new mixed gauge diamond ?      
         Given the earthworks were completed   ages ago one would have thought that would be complete by now just                     waiting for the two sets of points and the mg diamond to go in .  BUT typical V/Line it is the reverse .
  Richard stroker Locomotive Fireman

I drove through Arrat a couple of days ago and no heavy machinery in sight , a very slow moving PN Sg grain Heading towards western hwy crossing
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
I need a map or some photos - I'm not following the descriptions sorry!
  62440 Chief Commissioner

I need a map or some photos - I'm not following the descriptions sorry!
james.au
Check google maps, you can see the new track bed quite clearly
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Interesting - i must have been seeing a cache version of google maps for the last few weeks.

So, from previous comments, the diamond has gone into the BG, and now there are points at the northern end of the 'triangle/wye'?  Are these on the northern side of the LX or southern side?  From earthworks looks like northern side and they're going to add new track to make a new entrance into Ararat yard, and cut the track lower down to continue straight to Maroona?  the Maroona points look simpler.

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