January Shutdown

 
  Lockie91 Train Controller

During the first two weeks of January there is a major shutdown between Flinders Street - Caulfield/Burnley.

I’m aware of some of the works on the Caulfield group relating to the HCMT power and signalling upgrade works. The Sandringham line been taken out due to portal works at South Yarra.

Two Questions;

Does anyone have any further information on the works and how they are impacting the Burnley Group.

And from a historical point, has this ever happened before. I can’t remember a time when all lines through Richmond were knocked out.

Thanks !

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  jfan Chief Train Controller

Isn't the Burnley group only the weekend 12/13th January? The Sandringham line will be back in operation (closed 2-6 Jan)
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Half of the entire Lilydale line has had its rails painted yellow e.g. marked for removal. My guess can only mean that this goat track will finally be attended to after decades of neglect. But don't get your hopes up, I fully expect the rotten and broken wooden sleepers to remain in place (check just about any station pit between and including Flinders Street and Surrey Hills, and the recently "upgraded" Blackburn, at least one platform track will be a relic from the VR era), and for the rough pointwork at the down end of Camberwell to be completely untouched.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

… (check just about any station pit between and including Flinders Street and Surrey Hills, and the recently "upgraded" Blackburn, at least one platform track will be a relic from the VR era), …
Heihachi_73
As in Victoria Regina?
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Yes the January shutdown is for HCMT works between Caulfield - Richmond - upgrading overheads and signalling.  Over the past few weekends they have shutdown two of the tracks from Caulfield at various times so that more stanchions can be installed. It looks like all the overheads will be replaced at once except for perhaps the South Yarra - Richmond section.  Although more foundations have been dug between South Yarra - Richmond in recent weeks and in the Richmond junction areas towards Flinders St.

Tied into this will be more major works for the Melbourne Metro project between Chapel St - Toorak Rd.  The main work will be demolishing the William St bridge just up from Chapel St.  This will be eventually rebuilt to cover six tracks.  I believe the brick wall on the south side of the line near the Chapel St bridge will also be demolished along with the overhanging car park. The cutting through this location is to be widened to handle six tracks - four curving around to South Yarra and two descending to the Metro tunnel.  Three tracks will be moved further south and one moved north. Already temporary brown overhead stanchions have appeared and new signalling relax boxes have been built near the Jam Factory on the south side of the line. Great to see all this work taking place and it can already be seen that the work at South Yarra is more complex than building the Western Portal at South Kensington.

Edited to include a link to the Metro Tunnel Eastern Portal (South Yarra) site preparation plan - much of this work will be taking place during the January shutdown: https://metrotunnel.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/318800/App-A-Eastern-Portal-Site-Plan.pdf
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
As in Victoria Regina?
"justapassenger"

If it includes bluestone or brick platforms with bumpy old moss-covered asphalt laid in the Victorian Railways era it might, but I don't think we have any 19th century rails left in daily use. Smile
  raudteejaam Junior Train Controller

We went through this last year. It wasn't my favourite time to commute. I fear this year will be worse I normally board at Clayton, but for last years shut down, I drove myself to Westall and parked there to get the express buses.

The first week was actually pretty good. Very few people, and out of 10 trips to/from Westall, 8 of them were in decent coaches, 1 was in a school bus, and the other in an old bomb of a bus brought in from who-knows-where. Most days I had two seats to myself, and got free largesse courtesy of Metro (drinks, donuts, icy poles etc). My trip to/from work in fact became substantially quicker than the train.

The second week wasn't so good. More people returning work meant busier services and frustrated passengers who clearly live in a bubble and weren't expecting buses, particularly on the Monday. The free stuff dropped off, and the quality of vehicles also decreased. I ended up with my knees around my ears a few times.

By the third week I gave up and drove to Mt Waverley. Unfortunately, I wasn't the only genius with that idea and had to park a substantial distance away even at 7am (15 min plus walk) I only lasted a few days before I gave up. I ended up working from home for the remainder of the time.

The only bright side was that the bus replacements were free travel. Well, I tell a slight lie. Passengers were meant to tap on and off and pay for their journeys. I just never did. The one time I was challenged about it at Westall I said "Oh yes I'll tap on at the platform" then crossed the bridge walked to my car and drove home. #winning
  Lockie91 Train Controller

A little bit of an update on the current works going on for those that don’t get around as much.

HCMT
The majority of the foundations for the new stauchens have been installed between Russell Street and South Yarra. With new overheads now in use between South Yarra and Richmond.

New track detection and circuitry equipment has been installed.

Platform extensions at South Yarra are almost complete with passanger cover being installed yesterday.

Along with all of this a lot of general maintenance seems to be tacking place. Ballast replacement and mud hole remove etc.

MM1
The Windsor siding as we know it is gone. The area as been completely dug out. The cutting for the track realignment is complete along with an access track down to DOWN end of South Yarra. The Williams street bridge is also a thing of the past. The Toorak Road over pass makes a great viewing spot.

In the west, the Hudson road car park is complete and open from this morning. Some of the old buildings look like they have been repouposed for MM1 staff. Quite a large lay down area remains with plenty of equipment. Childers road parking is now closed and the road itself will also close. A large retaining wall has been constructed against the rail embankment to support the TBM retrieval.

Looks like it’s going to be a busy year and we are going to see projects that have been talked about for ages come to life.

Lockie
  bramt Deputy Commissioner


MM1
The Windsor siding as we know it is gone. The area as been completely dug out. The cutting for the track realignment is complete along with an access track down to DOWN end of South Yarra. The Williams street bridge is also a thing of the past. The Toorak Road over pass makes a great viewing spot.



Lockie
Lockie91
The William St bridge was certainly still standing this afternoon. I don't think it's being removed this shutdown. The brick wall by Arthur St was also still there yesterday, contrary to the note in the construction plan linked above "Install brick anchors and piles new wall to prepare for January 2019 occupation brick wall removal"
  historian Deputy Commissioner

MM1
The Windsor siding as we know it is gone. The area as been completely dug out. The cutting for the track realignment is complete along with an access track down to DOWN end of South Yarra. The Williams street bridge is also a thing of the past. The Toorak Road over pass makes a great viewing spot.
Lockie91

This wasn't the Windsor siding. That was, as you'd expect, at Windsor (on the Up side of the line between the platforms and the level crossing). It's now a park.

The siding at South Yarra was on the alignment of the original bit of the Oakleigh line when South Yarra only had two platforms and the junction was south of Toorak Road. The four platform station was brought into use in February 1884 when the Oakleigh line was realigned through the second bridge under Toorak Rd, with the junction now at the Up end of the platforms. (The duplication northwards to Richmond opened in October 1886. The new Cremorne bridge had opened in June 1886, but original bridge was then repaired.)

The now vacant triangular bit of land south of Toorak Road (i.e. the original alignment) was used as a site for a Per Way Depot from 1886, and the siding was probably put in at that time. It was definitely in existence in August 1892 when it was known as 'Inspector McNamara's Siding' (McNamara was the per way inspector in charge of the suburban lines.) It was removed in December 1903.

It's quite amusing that the siding is still remembered today, 115 years after it was removed.
  Lockie91 Train Controller

@historian

Thank you for the information blast!

I just typed in Windsor Sidding without double checking. Windsor Sidding is quite a popular little park. I use to walk my dog there when I lived in the area.
  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

Are the current works merely digging the cutting for the Metro Tunnel, or are they going to be more extensive? Also, is the cutting going to eventually be for the Frankston line, with the tracks being shifted east to accommodate the Metro Tunnel on the western side?
  Lockie91 Train Controller

Daniel Bowen has some good before and afters of South Yarra Siding.

https://www.danielbowen.com/2019/01/10/south-yarra-shutdown/
  Lockie91 Train Controller

@reubstar6

There are various plans on this page and a very rudimentary picture of the track realignment. I have seen seen the track layout on the MM1 website before, seems to have moved or vanished.

https://metrotunnel.vic.gov.au/construction/south-yarra

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