Taking your SLR camera and SatNav device while on overseas travel?

 
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Hello,

I have an upcoming trip where I will be hiring a rental car for the first time overseas.
I would also like to take my SLR camera with me too.

In the past I have only traveled overseas with the smaller point-and-shoot compact cameras which have been very easy to transport around in my carry-on luggage due to their small size.

My SLR camera is too big to fit in my carry-on, so I was just planning on having it sit under the seat in front of me on the plane (and holding it in my lap during take offs and landings).
Is this advisable? When flying, how do you travel with your SLR cameras?


The second question is regarding the SatNav/GPS device.
I will require one while driving on this trip, however I've found that it will be cheaper to buy and bring my own device with me, instead of paying $150+ to add one to the rental booking.

Should I purchase a SatNav once I get to my destination country, or should I purchase it here in Australia (and download the international maps) before I leave for the trip?


Thank you.
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  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Hello,

I have an upcoming trip where I will be hiring a rental car for the first time overseas.

The second question is regarding the SatNav/GPS device.
I will require one while driving on this trip, however I've found that it will be cheaper to buy and bring my own device with me, instead of paying $150+ to add one to the rental booking.

Should I purchase a SatNav once I get to my destination country, or should I purchase it here in Australia (and download the international maps) before I leave for the trip?


Thank you.
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Buy one locally on Day1 - that way you know what charger plug you need etc.

The ones they offer with the vehicle are usually low quality and expensive.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Better still, buy a good map.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Better still, buy a good map.
Valvegear
Trouble is, the kind of map that used to be found in the local Servo is no more.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Trouble is, the kind of map that used to be found in the local Servo is no more.
"mikesyd"
I did say, "good" map. The local servo offerings were never anything to write home about.Very Happy
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

We took our SatNav to NZ recently, only to find that the car we had was equipped with built-in SatNav system. But we will be taking it to Ireland and Scotland in a few months time. It cost me $100 to get the maps, but that's much cheaper than the 10 Euro per day in Ireland, 10 Pound a day in Scotland the rental car companies want. I guess it depends on how long you are renting for - in our case it's three weeks in each place so it was a no brainer.

Can't help with a large DLSR I'm afraid. I have an Olympus OMD EM5 which is a four-thirds mirrorless system camera, small bodied, and the small camera bag with body and two lenses (and room for my point-and-shoot as well) fits in the bottom of my backpack. I've often wondered how tourists get their humungous Nikons or Canons into their 7 kg carry-on allowance.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
I've often wondered how tourists get their humungous Nikons or Canons into their 7 kg carry-on allowance.
duttonbay
Believe it or not, some "Legacy" Airlines are quite generous when it comes to the Carry On allowance (some seem to ignore it completely, though a spot check one day will catch many).

They seem to separate "Computer" from that 7kg - meaning that laptop bags generally get past. Now a "Computer" is what these days? - can be a Laptop, Tablet, even an SLR Camera.

Don't try it on a Low Cost Carrier (LCC) though.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Most airlines will only let you hold an iPad or mobile phone size device during take off and landing.
Where on earth (or in the air) do you plan to put this supposedly very large camera when you eat or go to the toilet ?

Have a backpack with suitable padding ready.
GS4
Thank you, I had not considered if my camera will be considered too large to hold during take off and landing.

The camera is a full frame body with a 28-300mm lens (about 30cm combined length), which I was going to house in a large camera pouch - as opposed to a more traditional, larger camera 'bag'.
I'm not even sure if pouches this size exist for slr camera's, if they do I will need to buy one.
I don't own a camera 'backpack' and don't think it will be a suitable size to fit the rest of my (carry on) travel items into, although this is something I will need to research.

In saying that, I don't expect the camera pouch will fit into by carry-on bag, so I was just going to leave it on the seat of plane when I have to get up and keep it between my feet under the seat in front for the rest of the time.


Buy one locally on Day1 - that way you know what charger plug you need etc.
The ones they offer with the vehicle are usually low quality and expensive.
mikesyd

Thank you, that was the option I was looking at.


Better still, buy a good map.
Valvegear

Normally I would agree, I am a big fan of the physical version of maps.

However in the particular case I need a SatNav device which displays the map infront of me as I am driving along.
eg. when chasing trains between rural cities; which roads run adjacent to the train line and are these roads dead ends?
Are they sealed the full length or just some of the way? etc.

I prefer to have these questions answered while I am driving in some time critical cases (train chasing),  rather than needing to pull over and stop to read the map.


I've often wondered how tourists get their humungous Nikons or Canons into their 7 kg carry-on allowance.
Believe it or not, some "Legacy" Airlines are quite generous when it comes to the Carry On allowance (some seem to ignore it completely, though a spot check one day will catch many).

They seem to separate "Computer" from that 7kg - meaning that laptop bags generally get past. Now a "Computer" is what these days? - can be a Laptop, Tablet, even an SLR Camera.

Don't try it on a Low Cost Carrier (LCC) though.
mikesyd

Yes this weight issue is causing some concern and I will need to research further.
Many major airlines are now cracking down and enforcing the carry-on weight limits.

My carry-on will weigh approx 5kgs+laptop.
Then I hope my camera will be considered as my 1 'personal item'.


Thank you all for your replies.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
However in the particular case I need a SatNav device which displays the map infront of me as I am driving along.

eg. when chasing trains between rural cities; which roads run adjacent to the train line and are these roads dead ends?

Are they sealed the full length or just some of the way? etc.

I prefer to have these questions answered while I am driving in some time critical cases (train chasing),  rather than needing to pull over and stop to read the map.
"Ads"
Well please don't drive anywhere near me or my family. Your job behind the wheel is to drive safely - nothing else. This means giving driving your attention. You do not need distractions, and chasing a train is not time critical when other people's lives are at risk. At 100 km/h you're covering just under 28 metres per second. A half-second distraction is 14 metres, plenty of room in which to run off the road or up the tail of the car in front which just had to slow down.
Please get your priorities right - safety is top.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

However in the particular case I need a SatNav device which displays the map infront of me as I am driving along.

eg. when chasing trains between rural cities; which roads run adjacent to the train line and are these roads dead ends?

Are they sealed the full length or just some of the way? etc.

I prefer to have these questions answered while I am driving in some time critical cases (train chasing),  rather than needing to pull over and stop to read the map.
Well please don't drive anywhere near me or my family. Your job behind the wheel is to drive safely - nothing else. This means giving driving your attention. You do not need distractions, and chasing a train is not time critical when other people's lives are at risk. At 100 km/h you're covering just under 28 metres per second. A half-second distraction is 14 metres, plenty of room in which to run off the road or up the tail of the car in front which just had to slow down.
Please get your priorities right - safety is top.
Valvegear
Excellent post.

I would suggest it is an even higher risk to be engaging in those sorts of antics on unfamiliar foreign roads, probably with different road rules to Australia as well.

I have therefore withdrawn my previous post providing assistance. I don't want to either be involved or be seen to be involved.

Perhaps @Ads would consider hiring a local resident to drive him around, leaving him to focus fully on his photography.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Don't take it personally Ads - some people just cant keep their recreational internet outrage in their pants.

I for one understand where you are coming for and I'm sure you would not consider doing anything unsafe. It's just that some people take what is said in a forum post as black and white, and then immediately feel they have to start making character judgments without first seeking further detail.

If you follow their logic, then all Sat Navs should be banned.

I must admit when chasing trains I check Google Maps the night before and then just use the Sat Nav as a secondary aid on the chase. I took a Sat Nav to the US back in 2017 and had no real issues - - just do your uploads at least a week or so beforehand, that was a minor problem.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Don't take it personally Ads - some people just cant keep their recreational internet outrage in their pants.

I for one understand where you are coming for and I'm sure you would not consider doing anything unsafe. It's just that some people take what is said in a forum post as black and white, and then immediately feel they have to start making character judgments without first seeking further detail.

If you follow their logic, then all Sat Navs should be banned.
bingley hall

Nobody made a judgement. I made an observation on road safety quoting a few facts and figures to someone who had already written that his train chase was "time critical", and that he didn't have time to stop. In other words, he's in a hurry.
I haven't accused him of anything; I have made a point about safety - no more; no less.
The suggestion that all Sat Navs should be banned would have nothing to do with logic - a suggestion which surprises me coming from you.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Yes, I see how my wording has caused some concern. In hindsight I should have articulated it better.
I apologise for my comments.

Valvegear/justapassenger - I appreciate where you are coming from and share your concerns for such potentially careless behaviour should not be undertaken while operating a vehicle.


Chasing a train as a "time critical" event was not meant to be taken in the literal sense of the phrase.
I am certianly not hooning down the highway at 100+kms, foaming at the mouth with excitement at the nearby train, while scrolling through the SatNavs maps and menus.

Here in Australia I have seen terrible driving examples of fellow railfans when they are out 'chasing trains'.
Their actions have left me shaking my head in disbelief and disappointment on many occasions.

Rest assured, the scenarios or antics put forward to me in your replies are not indicative of my previous, current or future driving behaviour.


bingley hall - Thank you very much for your support and info provided. I do appreciate it.
We seem to be on the same wave-length here as I also check google maps religiously the night before to plan ahead for the next day. Hopefully, I can still do this while staying in cheap motels in the small rural towns I plan on visiting while overseas.
(These properties all claim to have internet provided, however getting the internet to actually work can be another matter!)
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Ads - thanks for taking the time and trouble to write such a reply. I certainly did not mean offence, and I am pleased that you understand this. I also appreciate your remarks about behaviour on the roads.I have seen our gunzels doing ridiculous things, some of which horrify me.

Anyway; have fun, stay safe, and give the trains a wave from me.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Ads - thanks for taking the time and trouble to write such a reply. I certainly did not mean offence, and I am pleased that you understand this. I also appreciate your remarks about behaviour on the roads.I have seen our gunzels doing ridiculous things, some of which horrify me.

Anyway; have fun, stay safe, and give the trains a wave from me.
Valvegear
Thank you for your reply.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
There are some GPS apps for your phone that you can use without an internet connection. Eg Here WeGo Maps might be worth a look. Just download the maps before you go.

Rick
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
There are some GPS apps for your phone that you can use without an internet connection. Eg Here WeGo Maps might be worth a look. Just download the maps before you go.

Rick
RustyRick
On a recent trip to the UK a ridiculous price was being asked to have a SatNav in the hire car, which I declined and decided to use my phone with Here WeGo installed and UK maps downloaded. On picking up the car the attendant tried to charge me for a SatNav, which I again declined. On entering the vehicle I found it had a SatNav installed which I duly used for the next 5 weeks. They're trying to rip people off...
  arctic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Zurich
I just use google maps on my iPhone (with a dashboard mount) after buying a local sim or datapack.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
RustyRick,Graham4405,arctic - Thank you for your replies and advice.

I will install "Here WeGo" onto my phone and take it along for the trip along with the hands free device/dashboard holder for the phone.
I don't have much confidence in my phone to perform a task like this for a prolonged period of time* as it is prone to overheating when using standard features such as the camera or having it's GPS tuned on.....or being charged longer than necessary. Rolling Eyes

*Anything longer than 5 mins.


Although "He WeGo" would make a good substitute in lieu of having a 'good' physical map to read - either the night before at the motel or while the vehicle is parked.

Yes, I can relate. The last time I rented a car in Australia I chose not to include a SatNav to the booking.
I packed my state-wide street directory book (its weight bringing me precariously close to the plane's carry-on luggage limits!), only to find the upon collection that the car had a built in SatNav as well.
Money well saved, they certainly are unnecessarily expensive to hire.

Fingers crossed that happens with the next rental. I'm wondering if there is a 'trick' to scoring a car with an in built SatNav - perhaps it comes standard with rental cars from a particular size category? Although I assume there wouldn't be any hard-and-fast rule to that.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I just use google maps on my iPhone (with a dashboard mount) after buying a local sim or datapack.
arctic
That only works when you have a phone signal. Whether relying on google maps is a good idea depends on where you are travelling and how good the coverage of your chosen SIM is.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I just use google maps on my iPhone (with a dashboard mount) after buying a local sim or datapack.
That only works when you have a phone signal. Whether relying on google maps is a good idea depends on where you are travelling and how good the coverage of your chosen SIM is.
duttonbay
Ah right. So the phone's GPS alone will not work for these off line maps - it requires a telco's reception signal as well.
I'll keep that in mind.

Cheers
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I just use google maps on my iPhone (with a dashboard mount) after buying a local sim or datapack.
That only works when you have a phone signal. Whether relying on google maps is a good idea depends on where you are travelling and how good the coverage of your chosen SIM is.
Ah right. So the phone's GPS alone will not work for these off line maps - it requires a telco's reception signal as well.
I'll keep that in mind.

Cheers
Ads
Theoretically google offline maps should work without any need for data - once you have downloaded them. But I have never had any luck with using them, and I don't know whether the nice clever google search routines for an address won't work without data. I have HERE maps on my phone, which needs no data, but finding an address can be problematic, and might require the address to be entered exactly in the way it is expecting. I know historically when I tried to find an address those maps don't know anything about street numbers, so searching for 123 high street tends to puts you in the middle of High Street. That may have improved.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
duttonbay - Thank you for the insight, good to know. I'll approach this 'offline maps' option with caution then.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I'm wondering if there is a 'trick' to scoring a car with an in built SatNav - perhaps it comes standard with rental cars from a particular size category? Although I assume there wouldn't be any hard-and-fast rule to that.
Ads
I think it is just the luck of the draw. In my case the hire company was Hertz in the UK, car picked up from Gatwick airport. The car was described as "Mercedes C class or equivalent", the actual car provided was a Volvo V40, which incidentally was a superb car to drive, hire cost very reasonable.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I'm wondering if there is a 'trick' to scoring a car with an in built SatNav - perhaps it comes standard with rental cars from a particular size category? Although I assume there wouldn't be any hard-and-fast rule to that.
I think it is just the luck of the draw. In my case the hire company was Hertz in the UK, car picked up from Gatwick airport. The car was described as "Mercedes C class or equivalent", the actual car provided was a Volvo V40, which incidentally was a superb car to drive, hire cost very reasonable.
Graham4405
Thank you Graham.
Somewhat confirms my theory that it would be the more 'high-end' cars, as I believe their 'standard/base model' would come with the built in SatNav, where as at the cheaper end of the market, the SatNav would be considered an additional feature and does not come standard with the base model.

From the cars I have rented in the past (mostly the cheapest hatchbacks and sedans), I gather that the hire companies only purchase the 'base model' of these particular vehicles. Which certainly makes sense given their purpose.
I did have luck a number of years ago when I hired a 'compact-suv' - a Nissan Dualis/Qashqui, which had the built in SatNav and was a very welcome bonus.

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