I wonder who the Federal Government will pin the blame for todays effort on.who to blame is simple, the owner of the problem, the State of Victoria!
the issue today has been driven today by a loss of some of the brown coal capacity
If you place 100% of your trust in a machine that is reliable 95% of the time, expect to fail, which is why the wholesale price in Vic more than doubled the day after Hazellwood closed and remained there ever since.the issue today has been driven today by a loss of some of the brown coal capacity
Yep, that reliable base load capacity is working really bloody well.
The spin around this issue is astonishing. The state government didn’t “close down Hazelwood” - its private owner did citing the cost of repairs to make it viable in the long run. Expecting the state government, then, to wear the investment risk for some other private investor to “commission new capacity” (by which right-wing pundits inevitably need coal) is a complete perversion of the market forces that were supposed to save the taxpayer money.
Of course there’s no market incentive to build capacity that will be used once or twice a year. That’s economic unviability 101.
They will blame "renewables", despite the fact that there is a lot of wind and sunshine today, not just in Victoria.and you would be 50% very much wrong.
There are thousands of rooftop solar installations, which are either powering devices locally or feeding in. If these thousands of solar installations suddenly ceased to exist, then the grid really would be in trouble.
There are 3 Units Offline in the Latrobe Valley as well :Yes, that was on the news, over here, they were talking about, drawing power from the national grid, to hopefully keep the air cons running, with the extreme heat, yesterday, but said, some units in Victoria, were not able to run at maximum output, due to having maintenance, done.
2 at Yallourn
1 at Loy Yang A
https://aemo.com.au/Electricity/National-Electricity-Market-NEM/Data-dashboard#nem-dispatch-overviewThere are 3 Units Offline in the Latrobe Valley as well :Yes, that was on the news, over here, they were talking about, drawing power from the national grid, to hopefully keep the air cons running, with the extreme heat, yesterday, but said, some units in Victoria, were not able to run at maximum output, due to having maintenance, done.
2 at Yallourn
1 at Loy Yang A
Not sure, what genius would decide on reducing power out put, this time of year.
Yeah, I actually did that one intentionally, because the total output currently is less than the largest single wind farm and a bunch a chickens could do better.Wind output for the country is a poultry....Made me laugh thinking about chicken wing flap powered fans....
Why are units taken offline for scheduled maintenance in January and February? If the maintenance is carried out, why are they then breaking down?YPS4 is going through a relatively minor outage and its scheduling would have been locked in months ago assuming that the rest of the system was going to be ok. It's not possible to defer an outage and screw all the subcontractors and suppliers in the process, and potentially force a clash with other planned outages.
It's worth noting that RTT thinks that a new base load station shoulda been planned and built in the three month period between the announcement of Hazelwood's closure, and its actual closure. Yeah, right.DB, appreciate you don't make such comments about what I think when you know full well what you are saying is BS. I drive past a coal fired power station under construction every day and worked on sites where they are built for aluminium. For teh record its 2.5 years for the first turbine, + 9mth for each extra turbine.
Let's look at some actual truths.
Today, during much of the period when SP Ausnet (which distributes to the eastern portion of Vic, including Melbourne's eastern 'burbs) had over 20,000 customers offline mainly (but not exclusively) due to load shedding, electricity was still flowing to NSW from Victoria. Really. This, despite lots of spare capacity available in NSW.
Loy Yang 3 suffered a tube leak in its boiler on Tuesday afternoon. Yallourn 4 is offline for planned maintenance and is due back early next week. Yallourn 3 failed this morning. Loy Yang 2 is struggling at less than 70% capacity at the moment. The 500MW buffer, currently provided by spare gas fired generation, would still have to be maintained even if there was only one coal fired generating unit left in service...in case it broke down.
The amount of solar electricity generated seen on sites such as electricitymap.org is EXCESS solar placed onto the grid from rooftops, aside from the small amount presently generated from solar farms. One could imagine how dire the situation would be if home PV didn't exist. Solar has been much more reliable today than LY4, YPS4, YPS3 and LY2. In Victoria, wind has only run between 30 to 40% of capacity, but it has been eminently reliable and predictable.
A cool change has already swept through most of Greater Melbourne and beyond, easing concerns for the rest of the day. The current wholesale price, while still higher than average, is only a fraction of what it was at this time yesterday.
To all of you, depending on your bent, spin it any which way.