Re Opening & Upgrading Maryborough - Avoca - Ararat

 
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

I need a map or some photos - I'm not following the descriptions sorry!
Check google maps, you can see the new track bed quite clearly
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Looks like the alignment cleared for grubbing; that's not a finished formation.

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  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
From earthworks looks like northern side and they're going to add new track to make a new entrance into Ararat yard, and cut the track lower down to continue straight to Maroona?  the Maroona points look simpler.
james.au
Do you mean realign the SG mainline to the Northern side of the existing BG on a more smoother easier curve.

The diamond Installed back In 2003-04 would be removed.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Interesting - i must have been seeing a cache version of google maps for the last few weeks.

So, from previous comments, the diamond has gone into the BG, and now there are points at the northern end of the 'triangle/wye'?  Are these on the northern side of the LX or southern side?  From earthworks looks like northern side and they're going to add new track to make a new entrance into Ararat yard, and cut the track lower down to continue straight to Maroona?  the Maroona points look simpler.
james.au
The recently installed RH turnout in the Maryborough sg line are just on the Up side of the Grano St level crossing (viz: on the Southern side of Grano St).  The stright ahead move is towards the Maroona connection and the RH diverge is connected and currently locked to lie RH diverge into Arararat Yard as trains still need to proceed out to Pyrenees Loop to run around before proceding towards Maroona for Portland, Geelong or Melbourne .
  Bonzel Locomotive Fireman

A new point facing Adelaide bound trains will be installed in sg mainline 100 metres on down side of Alfred St (Ararat side later this month) rh leg will connect to the recently installed dg diamond in bg Ballarat line then follow new alignment and link in to point near Grano St forming direct connection to Maryborough. As far as i know the the sg and bg lines through Ararat wont be altered. Also signalling works associated with the above will also be undertaken later this month.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Looks like 26-27 January is the date for the Mainline points to go in.

https://extranet.artc.com.au/docman/DocManFiles/DocTypes/TAA/Files/0050-2019.PDF?1059079252
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Two Parties involved here ARTC  and VLP.  ARTC doing signal works between Maroona and Pyrenees Loop. VLP points inAdelaide mainline late Jan Grano St points complete, diamond crossing of bg  near Akfred St complete. VLP new trackage across loco area still to be laid after 12 months linking Grano St via new mixed gauge diamond to Adelaide mainline towards Maroona. VLP also signalling at Mbh end .

Slowly drawing to a conclusion in yet another of VLP s   infamous long drawn out "Blue Hills"  sagas. Already 12 months late, the word is for a February commissioning _ but no ones saying what year !!!
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Two Parties involved here ARTC and VLP. ARTC doing signal works between Maroona and Pyrenees Loop. VLP points inAdelaide mainline late Jan Grano St points complete, diamond crossing of bg near Akfred St complete. VLP new trackage across loco area still to be laid after 12 months linking Grano St via new mixed gauge diamond to Adelaide mainline towards Maroona. VLP also signalling at Mbh end .
kuldalai

There are photos in the Victorian Railway Enthuisasts Facebook group showing the track has been laid across the loco area as of this week. It looks to be almost ready to roll once the SG mainline turnout is in.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Heap of people, trucks, a grader and lighting on Sunday
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
There are no Ararat trains this weekend and occupation on the western line. MP5 went north via Coota on Saturday. Probably some trains yesterday also.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
As you would expect given theres a possession on the line.  Looking forward to some reports in a couple of days, and maybe photos!
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Some photos on the VRE Facebook page showing the points are in.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Some photos on the VRE Facebook page showing the points are in.
james.au
Beat me to it.

Suspect the V/Line signalling occo will occur at Easter with the next big Ballarat line closure.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
https://www.araratadvertiser.com.au/story/5880599/ararat-train-track-to-be-connected-with-interstate-network/?cs=1516

And here we go with a full pic. And the article is perhaps the most factual and error free I've seen in a while on this project.  Tho doesn't tell us anything new.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
https://www.araratadvertiser.com.au/story/5880599/ararat-train-track-to-be-connected-with-interstate-network/?cs=1516

And here we go other a full pic. And the article is pergper the most factual and error free I've seen in a while on this project.  Tho doesn't tell us anything new.
james.au



The photo is looking from Maroona I think to the left would be Ararat Station and yard.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

And here we go other a full pic. And the article is pergper the most factual and error free I've seen in a while on this project. Tho doesn't tell us anything new.
james.au

That's actually a very good article by the usual standards of rail-related articles in the general media. Good on that journo.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
https://www.araratadvertiser.com.au/story/5880599/ararat-train-track-to-be-connected-with-interstate-network/?cs=1516

And here we go other a full pic. And the article is pergper the most factual and error free I've seen in a while on this project.  Tho doesn't tell us anything new.



The photo is looking from Maroona I think to the left would be Ararat Station and yard.
x31
A bit closer than Maroona actually, it would have been taken from from the Alfred Street Level Crossing (same location as my earlier September 2018 photo a few posts above), looking West, with Ararat Station and yard about 1km beyond.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Will a signal be required to protect north and west connections from the line from Maroona at that location?
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
I would expect that several signals will go in, not just at the Maroona end either. Time will tell.

What should go in, and what does go in, could be rather different.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
And here we go other a full pic. And the article is pergper the most factual and error free I've seen in a while on this project. Tho doesn't tell us anything new.

That's actually a very good article by the usual standards of rail-related articles in the general media. Good on that journo.
potatoinmymouth
I almost suspect that there has been some PR effort from RPV or related bodies given that photo and the relative quality of the article.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Yes well written - I hope they got the "Operational by February" part right.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
It would also be sensible if the ARTC were given control of the entire triangle and Ararat Yard - the boundary being out beyond Grano Street.
  historian Deputy Commissioner

Will a signal be required to protect north and west connections from the line from Maroona at that location?
x31

Ararat already has home signals on the standard gauge to protect the existing grade crossing. Signal placing in the bush is primarily about sighting and ensuring that long trains don't stop in inconvenient locations.

At the Maroona end the home is about a kilometre out, beyond the Western Hwy. They'll only move that signal if they need to. They might add a medium speed aspect, and a reduce to medium speed at the previous auto.

At the Adelaide end the existing home is well the other side of Ararat. I wouldn't expect that signal to move, nor would I expect a second home to be added.

They'll need a home and a repeating signal from Maryborough. I would expect just one, located wherever it is convenient to stop a long train.

I wouldn't expect the other leg of the triangle to be signalled, rather the existing switchlocked connections to be retained. It's quite likely that the 'new' exit towards Maryborough will be similarly treated. This would be the cheapest option. The alternative would be to have motorised rollout protection and a home or dwarf at the exit. Significantly more expensive. They could treat the existing line as a running line (no need for rollout protection) and just put in a signal. Slightly more expensive.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Stupid question time - what do you mean when you say 'home' signal?  What are the other types (i see you mention repeating)?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Stupid question time - what do you mean when you say 'home' signal?  What are the other types (i see you mention repeating)?
james.au
http://vicsig.net/index.php?page=infrastructure§ion=signalling might help along with

https://www.artc.com.au/uploads/TA20_Section_2_Fixed_Signals_V2.1.pdf

BG
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Stupid question time - what do you mean when you say 'home' signal?  What are the other types (i see you mention repeating)?
http://vicsig.net/index.php?page=infrastructure§ion=signalling might help along with

https://www.artc.com.au/uploads/TA20_Section_2_Fixed_Signals_V2.1.pdf

BG
BrentonGolding

First link fixed: EDIT: Railpage's awful parsing is breaking this link, go to Vicsig and go to Rail>Infrastructure>Signalling in the sidebar. Then go to the two-position section.
and another useful explanation with lots of pictures: linky

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