50 level crossings to be removed

 
  chomper Junior Train Controller

Preliminary works have begun around Reservoir station, but no one knows what the final design looks like. That intersection is a monumental clusterf..k even when trains aren't running, the design would surely involve some sort of road improvement...

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  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
Preliminary works have begun around Reservoir station, but no one knows what the final design looks like. That intersection is a monumental clusterf..k even when trains aren't running, the design would surely involve some sort of road improvement...
chomper
Why not check the LXRA website; which has the station design pictured a number of times. The LXRA are raising the rail line but not doing any major road works as that is Vicroads responsibility (or whatever the name of the organisation that has taken on road works from them)

Neil
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Apparently at the Cheltenham site, they are already demolishing homes/businesses to allow the new trench to be built.

So yeah this is what will be in construction this year:

Aircraft
Cheltenham
Carrum
Mentone
Reservior
Toorak Road
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Preliminary works have begun around Reservoir station, but no one knows what the final design looks like. That intersection is a monumental clusterf..k even when trains aren't running, the design would surely involve some sort of road improvement...
chomper
No changes proposed for the road layout at Reservior, though the design doesn't preclude any future changes.
  ptvcommuter Train Controller

Motorists and public transport users in east and south-east Melbourne will benefit from a $121 million investment in congestion busting infrastructure.
The funding injection includes $68 million in park and ride facilities at six locations - Croydon, Mitcham, Ringwood, Ferntree Gully, Hampton and Bentleigh.


The Liberals must be joking, money would be better spent removing level crossings which are dangerous and cause congestion for motorists and commuters at Hampton, Croydon and Ferntree Gully

Where would you even put park and ride facilities at Bentleigh and Hampton.
  chomper Junior Train Controller

Preliminary works have begun around Reservoir station, but no one knows what the final design looks like. That intersection is a monumental clusterf..k even when trains aren't running, the design would surely involve some sort of road improvement...
Why not check the LXRA website; which has the station design pictured a number of times. The LXRA are raising the rail line but not doing any major road works as that is Vicroads responsibility (or whatever the name of the organisation that has taken on road works from them)

Neil
ngarner
The LXRA still lists the design as preliminary/tentative, with one CGI aerial shot.
  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
This link has other views of the design from ground level Reservoir news

Neil
  historian Deputy Commissioner

Where would you even put park and ride facilities at Bentleigh and Hampton.
ptvcommuter

Multi level car parks on the existing car park site.

Exactly why they selected Bentleigh for one, though, is not clear.
  LeroyW Junior Train Controller

Location: Awaiting MM2
Where would you even put park and ride facilities at Bentleigh and Hampton.

Multi level car parks on the existing car park site.

Exactly why they selected Bentleigh for one, though, is not clear.
historian
Starting the process of trying to buy back their voters?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Starting the process of trying to buy back their voters?
LeroyW

More like the desperate death throes of a federal government completely out of touch with Melbourne.

Ironically the average punter will associate major construction with Dan Andrews anyway, and it’ll have the familiar logos of PTV all over it, so there may not be too much electoral benefit...
  mike49 Station Master

Starting the process of trying to buy back their voters?

More like the desperate death throes of a federal government completely out of touch with Melbourne.

Ironically the average punter will associate major construction with Dan Andrews anyway, and it’ll have the familiar logos of PTV all over it, so there may not be too much electoral benefit...
potatoinmymouth
There are many locations all over Melbourne that could use an expansion of parking spaces, of which Bentleigh & Hampton are just two, but It would be nice if people could leave their personal political prejudices out when discussing them.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

There are many locations all over Melbourne that could use an expansion of parking spaces, of which Bentleigh & Hampton are just two, but It would be nice if people could leave their personal political prejudices out when discussing them.
mike49

Not sure what’s you’re insinuating here: that was my attempt at an objective opinion on the electoral value of the federal government funding car parks. It had nothing to do with my personal politics.

If you want my political view on the subject though, here it is: spending any more taxpayer money on station car parking is completely and utterly unjustifiable, and any funds that would have been thus committed should be redirected to improved bus services. Car parks cost tens of thousands of dollars per space, far and away above what it would cost to transport the same number of people to the station on a bus network.
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
So the attempt at rebuttal to anyone questioning the garbage some post is 'it doesn't belong here'.

If you can't deal with the response, don't post such junk to begin with.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

So the attempt at rebuttal to anyone questioning the garbage some post is 'it doesn't belong here'.
ZH836301

You've brought up the ZH Express on at least 5 different threads now by my count, including this one which, in case you hadn't noticed, is about level crossings. By all means, criticise what you perceive to be garbage, because some of it is, but don't use people's opinions in unrelated discussions as the sole criterion by which to judge their ideas.
  mike49 Station Master

There are many locations all over Melbourne that could use an expansion of parking spaces, of which Bentleigh & Hampton are just two, but It would be nice if people could leave their personal political prejudices out when discussing them.

Not sure what’s you’re insinuating here: that was my attempt at an objective opinion on the electoral value of the federal government funding car parks. It had nothing to do with my personal politics.

If you want my political view on the subject though, here it is: spending any more taxpayer money on station car parking is completely and utterly unjustifiable, and any funds that would have been thus committed should be redirected to improved bus services. Car parks cost tens of thousands of dollars per space, far and away above what it would cost to transport the same number of people to the station on a bus network.
potatoinmymouth
In the middle & outer suburbs most commuters who live further than walking distance from their local station drive because it is quicker, easier & more convenient. Even if feeder bus services were a lot better than they are now it isn't going to change significantly & politicians of all persuasions know that which is why they will continue to build & extend car parks.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/major-works-to-kick-off-in-carrum

Interesting to see that a temporary slew will be built through the Carrum carpark while the viaduct is constructed. Very sensible use of space.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Also, Toorak Rd will be a rather elegant viaduct structure.

  Lockie91 Train Controller

One of the original 50 that was lingering. Good to finally get some designs for it. A missed opportunity to not remove Tooronga Road at the same time. Few hundred meters more and you could Knock off two.
  Adogs Chief Train Controller

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/major-works-to-kick-off-in-carrum

Interesting to see that a temporary slew will be built through the Carrum carpark while the viaduct is constructed. Very sensible use of space.
potatoinmymouth

That's the same as what they did at Seaford Rd.  Seemed to work well, they were done very quickly, without too much shutdown time.
  Adogs Chief Train Controller

Also, Toorak Rd will be a rather elegant viaduct structure.

potatoinmymouth

Best option.  With the topography there, I couldn't see how they'd do it it any other way, but I was wondering if they'd try to work out a rail-under solution to avoid NoSkyRail noise.  

Or if they'd go back to the old idea of undergrounding the Glen Waverley line entirely to sell the space to developers.
  PE2010 Station Master

Location: Newcastle
That artist impression of Toorak Road rail bridge surely has exaggerated the ramp angle ? Looks unusually sharp!
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
One of the original 50 that was lingering. Good to finally get some designs for it. A missed opportunity to not remove Tooronga Road at the same time. Few hundred meters more and you could Knock off two.
Lockie91
Skyrailing over Tooronga Road as well would have made a new Tooronga station a necessity. Too many unnecessary $$$.

Is Tooronga Road even on the list of crossings to be removed? I've caught a train plenty of times from Tooronga (it is just about my most preferred park'n'ride station when driving from Gippsland) and I have never witnessed much traffic on it. Not like the old days when Tooronga Road was part of the rat run between the S.E. and Mulgrave freeways.

If it was to be removed, maybe a hybrid grade separation would be possible considering that the 100m distance between the ends of the platforms and the crossing would allow some flexibility in design.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Is Tooronga Road even on the list of crossings to be removed?
DirtyBallast

No.

And agreed, it's hardly worth doing.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

I think the one worth doing at the same time would be the Glenferrie Rd at Kooyong, that's one of the 3 tram squares left on the network.

But yeah I agree that would of been too expensive to add onto the list of already 75 level crossings. At least the Glenhuntly tram square will be removed some time before 2025. Leaving 2 tram squares left on the network, one on the Glen Waverly line and the other on the Alamein line.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
That artist impression of Toorak Road rail bridge surely has exaggerated the ramp angle ? Looks unusually sharp!
PE2010
https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/sky-rail-to-replace-congested-toorak-road-level-crossing-in-melbournes-innereast

This will surely upset a few people in the area and the noise issues being higher will also I think raise some eyebrows but cannot see how this would be achieved with an under the road given it is adjacent a creek bed?

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