Armed teens descend on train station where mates were bashed by 30 youths

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 04 Feb 2019 15:25
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Nah, because there's people arguing about the relative intellectual capacities of different races, which is flat out bigoted junk science.

Someone PLEASE lock this.

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  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Nah, because there's people arguing about the relative intellectual capacities of different races, which is flat out bigoted junk science.

Someone PLEASE lock this.
potatoinmymouth
So report those posts as inappropriate / racist whatever, if we shut down an RP thread every time there was a post we didn't like you would have to close the entire Lounge forum just for a start.

BG
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Nah, because there's people arguing about the relative intellectual capacities of different races, which is flat out bigoted junk science.

Someone PLEASE lock this.
So report those posts as inappropriate / racist whatever, if we shut down an RP thread every time there was a post we didn't like you would have to close the entire Lounge forum just for a start.

BG
BrentonGolding
BG, there are a lot of posts I don't like on the Lounge, but most of them have some hope of leading somewhere interesting and/or rational. This thread can't go anywhere except flame and general unpleasantry.

If it must be kept open then at least move it to the Lounge because it has bugger-all to do with trains.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
BG, there are a lot of posts I don't like on the Lounge, but most of them have some hope of leading somewhere interesting and/or rational. This thread can't go anywhere except flame and general unpleasantry.

If it must be kept open then at least move it to the Lounge because it has bugger-all to do with trains.
potatoinmymouth
Really? The constant bickering between 2 or 3 people back and forth endlessly repeating their positions and baiting each other is leading somewhere interesting and/or rational? Quite the opposite of rationality I would have thought and not confined to one thread either.

QF I don't really care where the thread is but I think it would be a double standard to lock it but leave open some of the others that I have come across.

BG
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
I agree with PIMM - this should be moved to the lounge. If this happened at a bus stop at Chadstone or Werribee Plaza, it wouldn't be in the Vic forum. It's link to rail is minimal, especially now.

Mind you, I can easily ignore clicking on such posts but it's like watching a Myrtone post....

Rick
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Trapped in a meeting with Rhonda and Karsten
It'll stay open, the flame war thread was started by Our Glorious Leader after all...
  mejhammers1 Deputy Commissioner

@BG When Don Dunstan and I were having an argument about immigration many people complained and the thread was locked with a terse statement from Mr Peters.

I have not probs discussing these matters when it is explained with the thoughtfulness of ZH. ADB and Richard Striker on the other hand just come across as racist trolls.

ADB who gets his information from dodgy web sites who probably has never set foot in the UK says a couple findings dating from 2007 states that the UK is suffering from mass third world migration and is absolutely furious and gets personal when anyone questions him.

It is as though he is not concerned with the crime but the race and religion of the offender.

So yeah close the thread. It has been Don before.

Michael
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
I reported this thread way back, no response. So like the YouTube spam thread, seems it has approval from high places.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
@BG When Don Dunstan and I were having an argument about immigration many people complained and the thread was locked with a terse statement from Mr Peters.

I have not probs discussing these matters when it is explained with the thoughtfulness of ZH. ADB and Richard Striker on the other hand just come across as racist trolls.

ADB who gets his information from dodgy web sites who probably has never set foot in the UK says a couple findings dating from 2007 states that the UK is suffering from mass third world migration and is absolutely furious and gets personal when anyone questions him.

It is as though he is not concerned with the crime but the race and religion of the offender.

So yeah close the thread. It has been Don before.

Michael
mejhammers1
Michael, i was actually referring to the RE thread I think it is where RTT and the Don were going at it hammer and troll, not you and Don which I had forgotten about.

I am just not a huge fan of closing down threads just because someone doesn't like them is all. I prefer to just let people post and make my own judgements, normally those who others seek to silence are shown up for their own ignorance in the end anyway.

It is not a crime the post thoughtlessly BTW, if that was a criteria most of us would be long gone.

BG
  ADB Locomotive Fireman

@BG When Don Dunstan and I were having an argument about immigration many people complained and the thread was locked with a terse statement from Mr Peters.

I have not probs discussing these matters when it is explained with the thoughtfulness of ZH. ADB and Richard Striker on the other hand just come across as racist trolls.

ADB who gets his information from dodgy web sites who probably has never set foot in the UK says a couple findings dating from 2007 states that the UK is suffering from mass third world migration and is absolutely furious and gets personal when anyone questions him.

It is as though he is not concerned with the crime but the race and religion of the offender.

So yeah close the thread. It has been Don before.

Michael
mejhammers1

Dodgy websites? Like the Telegraph newspaper in the UK?

A third of Muslim students in Britain believe killing someone in the name of religion is justified, says Yougov poll:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/2461830/Killing-for-religion-is-justified-say-third-of-Muslim-students.html

And I have travelled to the UK, thanks very much, as well as Malawi, Botswana, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Kenya, Laos, Cambodia, Nepal, India, Egypt, Jordan and Israel. How about you?

As for me being furious and getting personal with anyone who questions me, lol, your lack of self-awareness is phenomenal.
  mejhammers1 Deputy Commissioner

@ADB So you have travelled to lot of countries, what has that go to do with anything and it proves nothing regards to your comments. It just makes you a well travelled bigot. So you travelled to the UK, I was born and bred there.

So you gleaned a yougov poll from The Telegraph, where not even the majority of Islamic Students feel that killing in the name of religion is justified. The rest I reckon you have gleaned from far-right sites.

Again you are assuming that I do not believe that Islamic Terrorism is real. I have lived through the IRA campaign and the threat was greater.

Your last paragraph proves my point. Accusing me of a lack of self awareness because I do not share your view. I have simply held up a mirror. It is not my fault you do not like what you see.

Michael
  mejhammers1 Deputy Commissioner

@BG When Don Dunstan and I were having an argument about immigration many people complained and the thread was locked with a terse statement from Mr Peters.

I have not probs discussing these matters when it is explained with the thoughtfulness of ZH. ADB and Richard Striker on the other hand just come across as racist trolls.

ADB who gets his information from dodgy web sites who probably has never set foot in the UK says a couple findings dating from 2007 states that the UK is suffering from mass third world migration and is absolutely furious and gets personal when anyone questions him.

It is as though he is not concerned with the crime but the race and religion of the offender.

So yeah close the thread. It has been Don before.

Michael
Michael, i was actually referring to the RE thread I think it is where RTT and the Don were going at it hammer and troll, not you and Don which I had forgotten about.

I am just not a huge fan of closing down threads just because someone doesn't like them is all. I prefer to just let people post and make my own judgements, normally those who others seek to silence are shown up for their own ignorance in the end anyway.

It is not a crime the post thoughtlessly BTW, if that was a criteria most of us would be long gone.

BG
BrentonGolding
Post Thoughtlessly, wow. All I am asking for is consistency. This is what Mr Peters said before locking down a thread

MODERATOR NOTE:

Hello Railpage users. Every Political and religious thread tends to get very heated.  Remember no tit for tat posting. That's  the mods job. No more racist posts etc. I do not care who started it, or was the last to post.


Yet this is allowed

The only thing train related is ; run all the non law abing Sudanese over with a very heavy train and then reverse to make sure the job is done properly

Scum as these Thieving gits are since when as stealing been a capital offence

And this

I've been a keen follower of the multicultural experiment in the UK (and Europe), and it's fascinating to see the same BS and obfuscation peddled by the Guardian/BBC and their small-"L" liberal useful idiots, now being peddled 10 or more years later by the Age and the ABC, and people on this board. Hell, the Guardian and BBC are still at it even as their multicultural utopia (see "grooming gangs", acid attacks, a knife epidemic among black yoof, honour killings, FGM, Islamic terrorism and Sharia patrols, etc etc.) disintegrates in flames around their tone-deaf ears. Seems people like to be brainwashed, and need to learn certain realities the hard way.

And this

Meaning the UK political class has basically imported/let in (significant) extra crime into the country, that wouldn't be occurring if they hadn't been let in. So yes, increasing numbers of people in the UK are now realising that there lives would in fact be better without mass Third World immigration, no matter how nice some of them are. Back in Melbourne, that's why African crime gangs get so much attention - we have enough trouble with our own ratbags, why did we import more?

This poster is a quote away from saying that white civilisation is under threat.

And nothing from Mr Peters. I would not care so much if he had let the threads he locked run its course, but he saw fit to close them. But dumping on minorities that some posters do not like is fair game.

Michael
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
It is not a crime the post thoughtlessly BTW, if that was a criteria most of us would be long gone.

BG
Post Thoughtlessly, wow. All I am asking for is consistency. This is what Mr Peters said before locking down a thread

MODERATOR NOTE:

Hello Railpage users. Every Political and religious thread tends to get very heated.  Remember no tit for tat posting. That's  the mods job. No more racist posts etc. I do not care who started it, or was the last to post.


Yet this is allowed

The only thing train related is ; run all the non law abing Sudanese over with a very heavy train and then reverse to make sure the job is done properly

Scum as these Thieving gits are since when as stealing been a capital offence

And this

I've been a keen follower of the multicultural experiment in the UK (and Europe), and it's fascinating to see the same BS and obfuscation peddled by the Guardian/BBC and their small-"L" liberal useful idiots, now being peddled 10 or more years later by the Age and the ABC, and people on this board. Hell, the Guardian and BBC are still at it even as their multicultural utopia (see "grooming gangs", acid attacks, a knife epidemic among black yoof, honour killings, FGM, Islamic terrorism and Sharia patrols, etc etc.) disintegrates in flames around their tone-deaf ears. Seems people like to be brainwashed, and need to learn certain realities the hard way.

Michael
mejhammers1
Your first example I would remove / block (if I were a Mod which I'm glad I'm not) as it is clearly hate speech.

The second on balance I would probably let go. Like I said it says more about the poster that anything else and people can make up their own minds about whether it be fact or fiction.

BG
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Just to throw another incident into the mix, this from 3AW and overnight crime.

  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Just to throw another incident into the mix, this from 3AW and overnight crime.
bevans
Not sure if it was intentional but well done, you've landed on a great example of absurd fearmongering.

The cops say three offenders. The victim says three offenders.  

And 3AW say... UP TO SIX OFFENDERS.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Just to throw another incident into the mix, this from 3AW and overnight crime.
Not sure if it was intentional but well done, you've landed on a great example of absurd fearmongering.

The cops say three offenders. The victim says three offenders.  

And 3AW say... UP TO SIX OFFENDERS.
potatoinmymouth
3aw is not a trusty source of news. EVER.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Just to throw another incident into the mix, this from 3AW and overnight crime.
Not sure if it was intentional but well done, you've landed on a great example of absurd fearmongering.

The cops say three offenders. The victim says three offenders.  

And 3AW say... UP TO SIX OFFENDERS.
3aw is not a trusty source of news. EVER.
Dangersdan707
Do you know any trusty news, source Ding-a-ling ? Media in general is questionable at best, isn't it.

BigShunter.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Just to throw another incident into the mix, this from 3AW and overnight crime.
Not sure if it was intentional but well done, you've landed on a great example of absurd fearmongering.

The cops say three offenders. The victim says three offenders.  

And 3AW say... UP TO SIX OFFENDERS.
3aw is not a trusty source of news. EVER.
Do you know any trusty news, source Ding-a-ling ? Media in general is questionable at best, isn't it.

BigShunter.
BigShunter
They're all pushing some agenda, for some ideology, ideal or person, even my beloved ABC. These guy's are just the most obvious along with Fox News and the peoples daily. Expect PEW News that is the most unbiased source in the universe.
  ADB Locomotive Fireman

Just to throw another incident into the mix, this from 3AW and overnight crime.
Not sure if it was intentional but well done, you've landed on a great example of absurd fearmongering.

The cops say three offenders. The victim says three offenders.  

And 3AW say... UP TO SIX OFFENDERS.
potatoinmymouth

Absurd fearmongering? From the ABC: "The man is recovering from serious head injuries in hospital after confronting up to six young men who broke into the family home in Fabian Court, Maribyrnong about 3:45am and stole the family car."

As for Mejhammers, the quotes from me you are citing as so terrible are purely factual, and can easily be researched by anyone without their head in the sand. All you are doing is seeking to shut down information which counters your ideology. Stalin would be proud.

As for "One quote away from saying white civilisation  is under threat", well, of course it is, in the UK at least. If you import millions of Muslims and you have numbers in the 30% range supporting killing in the name of their religion, that is a massive threat. As UK security forces are now finding out......
  mejhammers1 Deputy Commissioner

@ADB You really want to get your head out of your bum mate. Factual, you are talking BS. And because you have been called out as a racist you scream that your freedom of speech is being curtailed. It is you who escalated it, not me not anyone else, you. The subject was about Sudanese crime, which is perpetrated by a minority and you go off on a tangent about Muslims and Blacks in the UK.

Millions of Muslims in the UK being allowed in. There are 2.6 Million in the UK and many of them were born in the UK, so that knocks you millions into a cocked hat.

You do know of course that there is a growing terrorist threat in the UK from far right groups. (Mark Rowley, Head of the Metropolitan Police Counter Terrorism Group).

We are having a debate. You think all Africans and Muslims are scum and I think you are a angry racist tosser. You are allowed disagree with me and I with you.

Seriously it is not my fault you do not like what you see in the mirror.


Michael
  Richard stroker Locomotive Fireman

I have to agree with some posts on here , that this thread is going nowhere , but open discussion is what democracy is about .feeling free to voice your opinion .

I have been called a racist for singling out non- law abinding Sudanese immigrants ( to the social justice warriors , that does not mean all Sudanese immigrants, it's a pitty that it has to be explained).

The fact is , there is a problem with a group of disresctful Sudanese immigrants . When were car jackings and brutal home invasions happening before the Sudanese immigrants arrived ?

At the end of the day nothing will happen to change the situation , the social justice warriors will point fingers at people speaking out and it will be return volley from people being called racists .

It's up to government to change the system , but unfortunately we live in a nanny state . The courts take sympathy on the perpetrators and not the victim .

What happened to the good old days when to cops would give the youngsters a good old fashioned hiding , put the fear of God in them so they wouldn't be naughty again. It worked.

As for your comments on the media big shunter , the bumper sticker I have seen saying "is that the truth or did you read it in the herald sun" , it's the same with all the media , create a headline so you will buy the product .

What's the old saying ? Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Trapped in a meeting with Rhonda and Karsten
What happened to the good old days when to cops would give the youngsters a good old fashioned hiding , put the fear of God in them so they wouldn't be naughty again. It worked.
Richard stroker
It sure did! https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/catholic-cops-involved-in-coverup-of-child-abuse-by-priests-20150603-ghfwdt.html
  Richard stroker Locomotive Fireman

Thanks for your response LD , the problem in today's day and age with youth  is the perpetrators try and justify there actions as a poor me scenario , I was bought up wrong so it's not my fault .
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
When were car jackings and brutal home invasions happening before the Sudanese immigrants arrived ?

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What's the old saying ? Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story
Richard stroker
All the bloody time, but nowadays there are far many more simpletons stooged by the sensationalist claptrap trotted out by some sections of the media. Some people love headlines that yell at them; most sane folk don't.

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