R766- the final hurdle

 
  Fred Scuttle Junior Train Controller

Location: Point Clare, NSW
The issue we have is that whoever is responsible for this project are failing completely at exciting and thus getting the support of those who will make this a success. The local community - most people up here wouldn't even know it was there, rail fans, possible sources of funding and in kind support, and Government at all levels.
Dave C
Exactly. Those in charge of the R766 Project have either forgotten or ignored - or didn't even know of in the first place - an old truism concerning success in an enterprise. It is essential that you create a desire for your product - in this context, engaging and maintaining the interest of (a) enthusiasts; and (b) the wider community, to see R766 back on the main line.

It appears that HVRT are either unable - or unwilling - to "open up". What drives such a mindset? Is it a fear of losing control? Or just plain old-fashioned bloody-mindedness? I don't know. But I do know, that unless there are some changes, there'll be little, if any, progress.

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  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

The issue we have is that whoever is responsible for this project are failing completely at exciting and thus getting the support of those who will make this a success. The local community - most people up here wouldn't even know it was there, rail fans, possible sources of funding and in kind support, and Government at all levels.
Exactly. Those in charge of the R766 Project have either forgotten or ignored - or didn't even know of in the first place - an old truism concerning success in an enterprise. It is essential that you create a desire for your product - in this context, engaging and maintaining the interest of (a) enthusiasts; and (b) the wider community, to see R766 back on the main line.

It appears that HVRT are either unable - or unwilling - to "open up". What drives such a mindset? Is it a fear of losing control? Or just plain old-fashioned bloody-mindedness? I don't know. But I do know, that unless there are some changes, there'll be little, if any, progress.
Fred Scuttle
Hasn't work on R766 been completed and they are lodging accreditation documents. Seems OK progress to me. Maybe they just don't want a bunch of mad foamers annoying them. You know, the ones full of advice but no money.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
The issue we have is that whoever is responsible for this project are failing completely at exciting and thus getting the support of those who will make this a success. The local community - most people up here wouldn't even know it was there, rail fans, possible sources of funding and in kind support, and Government at all levels.
Exactly. Those in charge of the R766 Project have either forgotten or ignored - or didn't even know of in the first place - an old truism concerning success in an enterprise. It is essential that you create a desire for your product - in this context, engaging and maintaining the interest of (a) enthusiasts; and (b) the wider community, to see R766 back on the main line.

It appears that HVRT are either unable - or unwilling - to "open up". What drives such a mindset? Is it a fear of losing control? Or just plain old-fashioned bloody-mindedness? I don't know. But I do know, that unless there are some changes, there'll be little, if any, progress.
Hasn't work on R766 been completed and they are lodging accreditation documents. Seems OK progress to me. Maybe they just don't want a bunch of mad foamers annoying them. You know, the ones full of advice but no money.
nswtrains

Accreditation might be a bit difficult to obtain without the ICE Radio that they seek $75K for.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
What a laugh nswtrains is, obviously you haven't been following this thread, or the whole R766 saga! we have asked very politely in the past, only to be told in no uncertain terms to rack off, and MYOB!! as has been said many times, a bit of information doesn't go astray!
  michaelgm Deputy Commissioner

Supposedly, the R class are easily gauge convertible????
Given the shrinking amount of that other gauge, (dangerousdan) should others wish convert an operational R, a lesson in what not to do. And how not to Smeg in your own nest.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Supposedly, the R class are easily gauge convertible????
Given the shrinking amount of that other gauge, (dangerousdan) should others wish convert an operational R, a lesson in what not to do. And how not to Smeg in your own nest.
michaelgm
they are, If one was bothered to do do so. Just need the frames and axels moved in a few inches.

Nyet. I doubt it as most of the tours are operated on the lines that are unlikely to be converted such as Ballarat and Geelong and the Metropolitan network. I doubt another R will converted for some time due to the lack of traffic and other focuses that the groups may have. I do think that if R766 ever turns on SG that Seymours partially converted J will be next in line for a few inches narrower.
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

Gauge convertible is not quite the same as readily gauge convertible. Major re working of live and exhaust steam passages needed, also cross frame pieces. Makes me wonder whether the VR ever realistically expected these (and N, X and J classes) to ever be converted. Maybe just the appearance was enough to satisfy others. Might also explain why they kept the older K class going so long, even re-boilering them into the 1960’s as they so rapidly scrapped the N classes
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Trapped in a meeting with Rhonda and Karsten
Might also explain why they kept the older K class going so long, even re-boilering them into the 1960’s as they so rapidly scrapped the N classes
hbedriver
Keeping the Ks going while scrapping the Ns might have had more to do with Ns not being able to be easily turned on a 53' turntable, thus making them less useful in branch line duty as the diesels took over the mainline goods runs that the Ns were built for in the first place.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
they are, If one was bothered to do do so. Just need the frames and axels moved in a few inches.
"Dangersdan707"
 . . . and the brakes, and the motion gear, and the cylinders, and the steam pipes and . . . . .
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
they are, If one was bothered to do do so. Just need the frames and axels moved in a few inches.
 . . . and the brakes, and the motion gear, and the cylinders, and the steam pipes and . . . . .
Valvegear
forgot that
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
In short, the R is gauge-convertible, but it is definitely not easily gauge-convertible.
  Highrailer Assistant Commissioner

Location: Somewhere out on the track......anywhere around the country
Has anyone read this article before ?
The Hunter Valley mob claim to own 766 yet i was under the belief it was owned by shareholders or a consortium of some kind.
They also claim to have done all the guage conversion on it.

http://thespiritofthehunter.tripod.com/index.html
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Has anyone read this article before ?
The Hunter Valley mob claim to own 766 yet i was under the belief it was owned by shareholders or a consortium of some kind.
They also claim to have done all the guage conversion on it.

http://thespiritofthehunter.tripod.com/index.html
Highrailer
Looks a tad 'old' given that the November Tour is scheduled to depart from Newcastle Station. Or perhaps they are restoring the line in there too!!!

The ownership claim is interesting.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Whoever wrote that article could use some instruction in English, and also the use of correct nomenclature e.g. R766 is not a train; it is a locomotive.
  kitchgp Deputy Commissioner

'........ This Train has been repainted back to simular [sic] colours as they first were back in the 1944....'

1944? similar colours?
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Did they employ my 3y.o. & 6y.o. nieces to write their website, mind you even they know the difference between a train and a locomotive.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Based on their written skills, they wont be getting any accreditations any time soon.
  michaelgm Deputy Commissioner

Did they employ my 3y.o. & 6y.o. nieces to write their website, mind you even they know the difference between a train and a locomotive.
Jack Le Lievre
A work of fiction or, an exercise in creative writing. Now where's that red pen? Laughing
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I've always suspect that site is a scam
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
I've always suspect that site is a scam
Dangersdan707
Especially when you can book on those tours via PayPal - I wont be testing it though, as I don't have a PP account, and even then it might work, and swallow your money.
  Lockspike Assistant Commissioner

Has anyone read this article before ?
The Hunter Valley mob claim to own 766 yet i was under the belief it was owned by shareholders or a consortium of some kind.
They also claim to have done all the guage conversion on it.

http://thespiritofthehunter.tripod.com/index.html
Highrailer
Grammar and spelling is appalling, as is knowledge of railways. This will not help their cause on a number of fronts.
I find it incredulous that they couldn't find a way to do a better job of this.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
"All Information on this website is Copywrited 2005-08"
"UpperQuad"
Why bother? Who would want to plagiarise any of it - particularly when they can't even spell Copyright.
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
I'm sorry if the organisations involved in the conversions don't like questions but personally I was very excited about the conversion project hence I like to receive any updates.

If money is an issue maybe they could look at more ways of fundraising.
  neillfarmer Chief Train Controller

They have achieved a lot, I wish them well. 38+R is going to be a nice combination if NSWRM ever gets its 38 back together.
  HomeTownOf711 Beginner

I'm fairly certain that site is years old now + None of the contact emails work.

Not good from a legal perspective to be providing a payment gateway to events that aren't occurring.

I'm fairly tempted to call the contact number and see If I can get in contact with anyone re my previous posts regarding fundraising or publicity.

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