2019 Federal Election Thread

 
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
"I suspect those who in Vic that are anti coal are also anti LNP to start with."Spot on RTT. Similarly, those making the most noise about Malcom Turnbull being 'deposed' as PM surely would never vote Liberal anyway.

You've obviously never visited the electorate of Wenworth then Razz
He wasn't that well liked in Wentworth having ousted the well liked Peter King. Phelps will go this election, and while she's at it, she can be stripped of her medical qualifications too.
Aaron
Aaron, why do you think she should be stripped of her medical qualifications -

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  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Aaron, why do you think she should be stripped of her medical qualifications -
don_dunstan
She's on the record (and recently still) stating that Medicare ought to be used to cover unproven pseudoscientific, quackery.

Not on my watch.

And no legitimate doctor ought to support such waste of tax payer funds either. I had big discussions about this with Nick Xenophon and two members of his 'team' when he chose to pick a real doctor (emergency surgeon) and a chiropractor for two seats near me. Sadly I was in the seat with the chiropractor and my discussion with them was how/if I could register in a 'foreign' electorate to actually vote for someone I would support, or stay enrolled as I was and not vote at all. Nick of course encouraged me to just vote for his candidate in my seat, naturally I mailed in a blank form.
  ANR Assistant Commissioner

Looks like Scomo will be paying a visit to Yarralumla this morning...
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
"I suspect those who in Vic that are anti coal are also anti LNP to start with."Spot on RTT. Similarly, those making the most noise about Malcom Turnbull being 'deposed' as PM surely would never vote Liberal anyway.
RedEyeExpress

With Scomo's love of coal and distaste for technological advancement I can see steam making a comeback soon on our railways.

And as for electric cars he's missing a fantastic opportunity for job creation. Surely the simple answer is to employ people to walk in front of them with a red flag.

He's got my vote Razz
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
If Nine is to be believed, Morrison has called the election for May 18th. I must say it's good of him to finally get his act together and stop stuffing about.
The sooner we have fixed terms in Federal Parliament, the better it will be. We have fixed terms in Victoria, and it adds some certainty to the process, instead of relying on a politically opportunistic whim.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

"I suspect those who in Vic that are anti coal are also anti LNP to start with."Spot on RTT. Similarly, those making the most noise about Malcom Turnbull being 'deposed' as PM surely would never vote Liberal anyway.
Maybe I'm just strange.  I usually vote for (or preference) the Coalition but I'm pretty convinced that the Adani mine is not right.

But I can't bring myself to vote ALP or Greens because of their radical social policies and corruption/incompetence.

There are conservatives out there who also believe in conserving the environment and not trashing it.  At this rate I might vote informal.
What an oxymoron. Conservatives and conserving the environment.
nswtrains
Well I wish more conservatives would conserve the environment.  To my fundamentalist friends it's always fun quoting Revelation 11:18 to them....

And it's also fun reminding socialist friends that the USSR was an epic environmental disaster.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Now this is interesting.



Make of it what you will.
  RedEyeExpress Locomotive Driver

Location: Melbourne
nswtrains, 'conserving' things means keeping them as they are, and that can include the natural environment. Being pro-change/pro-development on the other hand.....
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
With Scomo's love of coal and distaste for technological advancement I can see steam making a comeback soon on our railways.
bingley hall
And in a hopelessly flawed attempt to appeal to both groups simultaneously they will burn 50% timber from Queensland land clearing and 50% Vegan Meat substitute.

BG
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Meat substitute.
BrentonGolding
I've always been amused that people who refuse to eat meat feel a need to eat a meat substitute...
  ANR Assistant Commissioner

Say what you like about Scomo. However his performance in various ministries has been without question considering what he inherited. If the coalition is voted in and he becomes PM in his own right, and manages to tame the far right, he is capable of much more.

The two party preferred poll will narrow as we get closer to May 18.

However, as I have said before, the Nats will need to pick up their game and ensure that they win every seat that they currently hold - but they wont. They have been MIA for a while.

Scomo doesn't have the luxury of losing any Liberal seats as Mal completely eroded the coalition's position in the last election.

Will Bill frighten off swing voters with the over-ambitious EV plan, the changes to the negative gearing etc?
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Is it over yet?

80% of people have already decided how they will vote, the other 20% can't make up their mind whether to vote informal or for one of the fringe dwelling nutjobs - As opposed to the usual nutjobs the rest of us will vote for.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I've always been amused that people who refuse to eat meat feel a need to eat a meat substitute...
Graham4405
Depends why you are doing it. If you refuse to eat meat for animal cruelty reasons then yes, it is weird. However if you are doing it for environmental reasons then it makes perfect sense. If you want to reduce your carbon footprint but still enjoy the taste and texture of meat then some of the new stuff coming out apptly fits the bill very nicely.

This article https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-04-09/vegans-australia-red-meat-declining/10980270 highlights the fact that veganism is growing in Aus but Animal Welfare is a long way down the order of reasons why people are eschewing meat.

Particularly popular among the @Dangersdan707 generation!

BG
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Is it over yet?

80% of people have already decided how they will vote, the other 20% can't make up their mind whether to vote informal or for one of the fringe dwelling nutjobs - As opposed to the usual nutjobs the rest of us will vote for.
Donald
Very fortunately, I am overseas, and wont be back until after May 18, and I fit into the 20% category (though am enrolled in a safe Labour seat).

I wont miss the endless advertising over all media one bit.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

But I can't bring myself to vote ALP or Greens because of their radical social policies and corruption/incompetence.
Ahhh I wouldn’t call them radical, more like quotas and riding the wave of Identity politics. I would not call them radical, if they were then I would be voting for them
Dangersdan707
So, the Closing the gap initiative, regarding the Indigenous population, making sure that the LGBTI community have the same rights as the rest of the populace and making sure that women get paid the same as men for doing the same job that's Identity Politics. But absolute throbbers like Fraser Anning outing every Muslim as a potential murderous terrorist, or effing Voldemort lookalike Peter Dutton lobbing grenades at the Sudanese stating that people in Melbourne are scared to eat out at night is telling it how it is.

Don't worry about the facts people, just focus on the fury. No wonder the world is in the awful mess.

Michael
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Morrison and shorten spent the first day on the trail in Sydney which is unlikely to decide the election anyhow. Abbott was out in his electorate now calling himself the underdog. Should have been old dog. Queensland and Victoria should decide this one as shorten can win just on Victorian seats.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Given that DAndrews lost the election for Billy last time around, he owes him big time for this one.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Given that DAndrews lost the election for Billy last time around, he owes him big time for this one.
Donald
I still think a minority government is a strong possibility - nobody really wants Billy Bob Shorten as PM, even rusted-on Labor people I know don't like him.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/statement-on-victorian-budget/
Vic Budget has been postponed to the end of May. Andrews is putting it all on the line to get a Shorten government.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE



And as for electric cars he's missing a fantastic opportunity for job creation. Surely the simple answer is to employ people to walk in front of them with a red flag.

He's got my vote Razz
bingley hall
Anyone believing the crap to make EV's in OZ is delusional. EV's will not be made in Oz for all the same reasons we don't make non-EV's anymore. While the lower dollar has improved things somewhat since the previous car markers called it quits, salaries still need to adjust alot further before we can again attract the automakers back to  Aust.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I still think a minority government is a strong possibility
don_dunstan
I would concur with this.

The last 2PP poll I saw was Labor 52 Coalition 48. I think the best interpretation for this poll result at the start of the campaign is too close to call, and the only poll which matters is (still!) the election.

Once things get that tight, it comes down to variations in individual seats rather than a national trend.

You can also add to that the inherent flaws in the headline 2PP polling question - it is based on a uniform swing which never happens in reality, and the majority of people answering treat it as an approve/disapprove question on the incumbent government's performance rather than a real question about voting intentions.

Even the 2PP count from the election itself is flawed. To illustrate this problem, have a look at the 2014 South Australian state election.
The 2PP count in the election was Liberal 53.00 Labor 47.00, but the result in terms of seats won was Liberal 22, Labor 23, Independent 2.
The reason the Liberals lost on the number of seats is that their 53% 2PP win was distributed across winning the 2PP in 24/47 seats (51.1% of the seats, a result which is comfortably explained by local factors) but that Independent candidates were elected in two of the seats where the Liberals won the 2PP.

nobody really wants Billy Bob Shorten as PM, even rusted-on Labor people I know don't like him.
don_dunstan
The same applies on the level of individual seats.

Think of examples like Sophie Mirabella who had many of the local Liberal Party members voting against her at the last two elections, or John Schumann giving Alexander Downer a very close call in a blue ribbon seat.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
You just need to look at the 2011 and 2012 NSW and QLD state elections to see how the distribution can have a very big impact on the outcome.

Both elections the LNP picked up very strong swings and they scored roughly the same number of votes, around 70-75% if I recall.

In NSW the LNP got a healthy majority of seats.

In Qld when the swing was more uniform across the electorate the ALP got 7 or 8 seats in a 88 seat house.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Abbott was out in his electorate now calling himself the underdog. Should have been old dog.
"freightgate"
Should have been mad dog.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Kristina Kenneally Youtube on the Liberals’ Electric Car Dysfunction, including proof of Joshua Frydenberg's previous support for them, plus support from some Liberal Minister for Energy called Angus Taylor who told us in October 2018 that electric cars can charge in about 8 minutes, plus that the Liberals would help with the funding of those charging stations, plus other pictures and dates for the non believers. Bill Shorten is in the background almost rolling around on the ground laughing at the ineptitude of of Morrison, Frydenberg and Taylor having liberal words dished up back at the liberals.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1198241780353195
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
I saw that a couple of days ago, and just giggled. Morrison and co. have zero self awareness,they should be totally embarrassed and humiliated because of how stupid they look. But no, they just keep ploughing  ahead into the next irony quagmire

Knighting Prince Phillip FFS is still one of the best I've seen though

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