Julian Assange Arrested

 
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Well after 7 years in the Ecuadorian embassy they have booted Him out.
Discuss as I cannot be bothered to post more details. Hero for transparency or criminal?

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  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Arrested by whom?
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The moment he was carried out of the embassy, he was shouting the U.K must resist, he looks about 70 here, but I understand he is much younger than he looks -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL1BCO2eCmk
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Arrested by whom?
awsgc24
By the U.K Police
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Arrested by whom?
awsgc24
British Police

They have been waiting outside ever since he was known to be held up In the embassy.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
Well after 7 years in the Ecuadorian embassy they have booted Him out.
Discuss as I cannot be bothered to post more details. Hero for transparency or criminal?
Dangersdan707
Turns out that you can get evicted if you refuse to clean your room, don't take care of your pet cat and keep hacking the government that was giving you asylum. Go figure.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
The real reason that he fled to the Embassy was that he heard that the RRA were after him to be their PR spokesman.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

According to an ABC News app notification just now, the US Government has charged Julian Assange with "conspiracy to commit computer intrusion" which carries a maximum penalty of five years. This is not one of the federal crimes in the USA which can carry the death penalty.

Well after 7 years in the Ecuadorian embassy they have booted Him out.
Discuss as I cannot be bothered to post more details. Hero for transparency or criminal?
Dangersdan707
We don't know if he is a criminal, because he has not yet been put on trial.

His arrest is good news, as the allegations against him can finally be tested.

The interesting part will be if Sweden decides to reactivate their request for his extradition over the rape charges which do not expire until August next year. In the event that this happens and Assange is simultaneously subject to multiple international extradition requests, the convention is that the requested country (i.e. the UK) is given the discretion to choose the order of priority for the requests.

Turns out that you can get evicted if you refuse to clean your room, don't take care of your pet cat and keep hacking the government that was giving you asylum. Go figure.
LancedDendrite
They did seek an assurance from the UK that Assange would not be extradited to a country where he would be tortured or executed.

I hope the cat is okay.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
I don't think Sweden ever charged him, rather they were investigating and asked the UK to extradite him, and he skipped bail as a result - and its that charge that the UK has him on. I think that Sweden have dropped their interest in any case since.

The US is another matter, only one charge so far which gets a max of 5 years if convicted, though a few more may surface as the clock ticks.

7 years in what amounts to a bedsit seems to have aged him more than that.
  ANR Assistant Commissioner

He should have chosen the Russian embassy...
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
A very dark day and my heart sinks at what that human being has been through for free speech. I am particularly disappointed in the words from Teresa May who cannot run her own country with a complete lack of sympathy and judgement. Pathetic country and pathetic policing.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Assange has been found guilty of skipping bail by a judge at the Westminster Magistrates Court, to be sentenced by the Southwark Crown Court (rough equivalent of an Australian state's District Court) at a later date. Maximum sentence is 12 months, and the time served starting from today will count towards it.

His next hearing on the US extradition is on May 2, so it looks like progress will start towards that even while he serves his sentence.

I don't think Sweden ever charged him, rather they were investigating and asked the UK to extradite him, and he skipped bail as a result - and its that charge that the UK has him on.
mikesyd
The terminology regarding arrests, detention, charges etc seems to be very different to that in British-based systems, but it certainly did get to a stage equivalent to 'charged' in our judicial system. Looking through their chronology of events and press releases, the words 'detention' and 'detained' (including 'detained in his absence') seem to be most equivalent to what we would understand as 'charged' - the formal notification that he is under arrest and investigation.

The Swedish Prosecution Authority has helpfully published a chronology of what their English language website calls 'the Assange matter' including events in Britain. Good of them to put so much of the info around this case out in the open and even to publish it in English for the benefit of people like us, they are the ones setting the standard of transparency.

I think that Sweden have dropped their interest in any case since.
mikesyd
They didn't drop the rape accusation, they suspended further attempts at progress while he was still cowering in the embassy.

Their press release of 19 May 2017 very clearly says that the only reason for suspending proceedings on the rape accusations is the inability to access Assange, not because they decided to drop it: "The motive is that there is no reason to believe that the decision to surrender him to Sweden can be executed in the foreseeable future." … "If he, at a later date, makes himself available, I will be able to decide to resume the investigation immediately, says Marianne Ny."

Then last night, they released a statement confirming yet again their ability to reopen it, and that a demand has been made to do so.

If Assange really is petrified of the US and not just confecting a political conspiracy to avoid getting done as a common criminal, he should be grateful that the Swedish are keeping their options open. Anything to complicate processes and offer more options for his lawyers to throw sand into the gears is a benefit for him. Actually getting to Sweden would be a huge win, as he would then have the protection of Sweden's more restrictive extradition laws and the international conventions around 'third country' extraditions.

He should have gone to Sweden and faced the music while he still had a choice in the matter.

The US is another matter, only one charge so far which gets a max of 5 years if convicted, though a few more may surface as the clock ticks.
mikesyd
The best thing for a chance of confirming the credibility of the US charges will be for the UK to prioritise the Swedish extradition ahead of the US extradition (I would think this is unlikely) to allow that accusation to be properly addressed.

The delay while Sweden acts could well push the US extradition beyond the 2020 election or even the 2024 election if he is found guilty of the rape accusation and serves time in Sweden. A new administration in the US would surely have a fresh look at the whole process and determine whether they are genuine charges which should continue to be pursued or a Trump administration stunt which should be dropped.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Assange is Australian, sorry freightgate, we don’t have any guaranteed ‘right’ to free speech.

Even if we did, he has still stolen materials and information he had no right to access.

Do you think someone who hacks a bank and publishes your credit card number for others to use is just using free speech?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Sweden has closed the investigation on the rape that insiders say was dodgy anyhow.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
You have to wonder about WikiLeaks though - all the 'music' has been about Assange, yet video of his Lawyer speaking in London has the Editor in Chief of WikiLeaks (Kristinn Hrafnsson) standing beside her. You would think that the UK, USA, and others would want them all silenced.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
What do the US charges have to do with Trump? He was charged in the US under Obama’s administration, Trump just happens to have been elected quite some time post Assange’s ‘entrance into’ Ecuador.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Assange isn’t as internationally known as I had assumed.

My wife has no idea who he is, she looked at me blankly and said ‘do you mean this Snow[den] guy?’, then she was speaking to her father who is pretty regarded as a man ‘knows everything’ (and in a good way) and he had not heard about Assange either.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

What do the US charges have to do with Trump? He was charged in the US under Obama’s administration, Trump just happens to have been elected quite some time post Assange’s ‘entrance into’ Ecuador.
Aaron
False.

The actions on which he is being charged occurred during the Obama presidency (2010, specifically) but the charges date to March 2018, over a year into the Trump administration.

Sweden has closed the investigation on the rape that insiders say was dodgy anyhow.
bevans
They didn't close it, they just suspended it while he was out of reach in the embassy.

Within hours of him being ejected, it was confirmed that they will look at picking it up again.

The best way to determine if it is dodgy would be to sort it out in a court room, wouldn't you say? If he really is more petrified of the USA and the Swedish accusation is dodgy, then his best move would have been to go to Sweden, get found not guilty and then stay there under the protection of their extradition laws which are far more restrictive than those which apply in the UK.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

Assange isn’t as internationally known as I had assumed.

My wife has no idea who he is, she looked at me blankly and said ‘do you mean this Snow[den] guy?’, then she was speaking to her father who is pretty regarded as a man ‘knows everything’ (and in a good way) and he had not heard about Assange either.
Aaron
So because your family is ignorant and uninformed you conclude by some odd logic that Assange isn't internationally well known?
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Ecuadorian President released Assange on the grounds of no refoulement.
Brits agreed.
Watch what happens.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

I don't think Sweden ever charged him, rather they were investigating and asked the UK to extradite him, and he skipped bail as a result - and its that charge that the UK has him on. I think that Sweden have dropped their interest in any case since.

The US is another matter, only one charge so far which gets a max of 5 years if convicted, though a few more may surface as the clock ticks.

7 years in what amounts to a bedsit seems to have aged him more than that.
mikesyd
Hasn't ever crossed your mind that he is a bit of a nutter, but an evil one at that. His association with Mannering is very odd because I always thought that a Private First Class in the Marines having unbridled access to such classified info was very strange. Maybe Julian recognised a sucker when he saw one and taught Mannering to hack into the CIA computers? I was very surprised how lightly Mannering was treated in this affair. Maybe the CIA realised that he was just an idiot led on by our Julian and that's why they want to get hold of Julian. Then it will be of to Gitmo for him for a very long holiday especially if the Yanks declare him a terrorist. Don't expect to f**k with the CIA and get away with it.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Hasn't ever crossed your mind that he is a bit of a nutter, but an evil one at that. His association with Mannering is very odd because I always thought that a Private First Class in the Marines having unbridled access to such classified info was very strange. Maybe Julian recognised a sucker when he saw one and taught Mannering to hack into the CIA computers? I was very surprised how lightly Mannering was treated in this affair. Maybe the CIA realised that he was just an idiot led on by our Julian and that's why they want to get hold of Julian. Then it will be of to Gitmo for him for a very long holiday especially if the Yanks declare him a terrorist. Don't expect to f**k with the CIA and get away with it.
nswtrains
I might know who Assange is but I'm sure I have no idea who this Mannering fellow might be?

BG
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Anyone read today the list of "acts" Assange had been doing at the embassy which got his hosts offside?
  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
I might know who Assange is but I'm sure I have no idea who this Mannering fellow might be?

BG
BrentonGolding
Fellow?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Bradly/Chelsea Manning was a US service person? (They swapped genders) who leaked a bunch of US military stuff to Wikileaks such as footage of drones Killing civilians

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