Portland Mineral Sands Traffic under El Zorro

 
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
Popped up today as a new photo and wow i had not known about this traffic.

https://www.railpage.com.au/photos/30677

why did it cease and is there still traffic for this location?

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  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
The Victorian mine near Ouyen closed. The plant at Hamilton was mothballed and all processing now takes place in Geraldton WA. There are rumours that it may open if (and it's a big if) a new mine near Deniliquin opens up.

Zero traffic of any sort in Portland, and likely to stay that way for a while.

Rick
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Zero traffic of any sort in Portland, and likely to stay that way for a while.

Rick
RustyRick
The chances of grain been exported through Portland (In the future) seem to be slipping away.

The Port of Portland Isn't fazed by the absence of grain exports.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Zero traffic of any sort in Portland, and likely to stay that way for a while.

Rick
The chances of grain been exported through Portland (In the future) seem to be slipping away.

The Port of Portland Isn't fazed by the absence of grain exports.
Nightfire
The re opening and upgrading of the sg line between Maryborough and Ararat and new direct cross connection between the Maryborough and Portland lines at Ararat is all designed for  new mineral sands traffic from new ILUKA mine near Managatang .

Next stage is to standardize the other two branches North of Dunolly then the intention is for Iluke to start mining load at Mangatang then the mineral sands go direct to Portland for shipping to WA for processing, or  re-open Hamilton processing plant and then export processed product via Portland or Geelong .
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
If the line to Robinvale stays BG which it seems like it will for the time being (perhaps years) then what does this mean for rail and access to the line to Hamilton for Iluka?

The Mineral Sands bulk is coming from the Balranald area which might be better loaded in the short term by trucking an additional 30 minutes from Manangtang to Ouyen.

The idea of using Manangatang and not Robinvale means the trucks have extra distance to run of approximately 100kms per round trip.
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Bored at home
If the line to Robinvale stays BG which it seems like it will for the time being (perhaps years) then what does this mean for rail and access to the line to Hamilton for Iluka?

The Mineral Sands bulk is coming from the Balranald area which might be better loaded in the short term by trucking an additional 30 minutes from Manangtang to Ouyen.

The idea of using Manangatang and not Robinvale means the trucks have extra distance to run of approximately 100kms per round trip.
bevans
OR

accept the facts that SG conversion is stuffed, and Portland Port don't give a damn about any business other than chips.

That leaves Manangatang and/or Piangil an opportunity to rail all their bulks (including grain) to Geelong and/or Melbourne.

Perhaps the larger bay ports have a better idea of how to manage and make a dollar.

PS: Robinvale is an even better option; but it's closed, crap and unlikely to ever re-open.

cheers
John
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Hi John yes for Grain but if the loading is Mineral Sands then it must go to the processing plant at Hamilton.
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Bored at home
Hi John yes for Grain but if the loading is Mineral Sands then it must go to the processing plant at Hamilton.
bevans
In keeping with your observation about Ultima  Freight Victoria established , then things are looking up for Managatang line.  (Can't really keep calling it Robinvale).

Sands don't have to go to Hamilton anymore.
Sending over to WA seems to be quite happy these last couple of years.
Hamilton council have managed to scare away the horses, and "moth balled" is just another way of saying uneconomic, irrelevant waste of time.

cheers
John.

PS: "opportunity" might also include re-locating the Hamilton plant to nearer the mine. Swan Hill area wouldn't knock back another employer.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The Victorian mine near Ouyen closed. The plant at Hamilton was mothballed and all processing now takes place in Geraldton WA. There are rumours that it may open if (and it's a big if) a new mine near Deniliquin opens up.

Zero traffic of any sort in Portland, and likely to stay that way for a while.

Rick
RustyRick

What has become of the North Portland Yard upgrade for the intermodal terminal?
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
The Victorian mine near Ouyen closed. The plant at Hamilton was mothballed and all processing now takes place in Geraldton WA. There are rumours that it may open if (and it's a big if) a new mine near Deniliquin opens up.

Zero traffic of any sort in Portland, and likely to stay that way for a while.

Rick

What has become of the North Portland Yard upgrade for the intermodal terminal?
bevans
All too hard. Porthaul (mostly a trucking company) purchased acreage in North Portland adjacent to the rail. They said they were looking at creating an intermodal hub there. That was probably the final nail for the old station site.

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