RAA calls for urgent Eyre Peninsula roads fix, amid rail line closure

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 28 May 2019 13:24
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
Why not send a bill to Viterra for the costs of the road trauma and the road damage and why can't the council prevent these trucks from using the roads.  The cost of road upgrades will be higher than the cost of rail use but maybe just maybe it is not about the rail use but more about the rail operator?

South Australia is sooo rustbelt they always get stuff backwards.  The government should be mandating the use of rail.

RAA calls for urgent Eyre Peninsula roads fix, amid rail line closure

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Councils would have veto over load limits on roads they maintain meaning large trucks would be banned from using the roads.  if the plan is to use a standard semi and single trailer then how could it be financially viable with those tonnages.  It also takes longer to unload 40 trucks than it would 40 wagons i would suggest?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

They are using triples to move the grain - three trailers.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
They are using triples to move the grain - three trailers.
duttonbay

And the council has agreed?
  Noelwb123 Station Master

They are using triples to move the grain - three trailers.

And the council has agreed?
bevans
They have been using B Doubles and Triples for years. The trucks coming from the north use Liverpool Street
  Noelwb123 Station Master

Most of my message went astray so I will try again.
Liverpool Street is the main retail street. B doubles and triples carrying grain use this all year. It is already a significant safety issue but the closure of the railway can only dramatically increase the danger. It is only a matter of time before someone backs out from Woolworths into the path of a B triple.
There will also be significant traffic congestion issues within the retail area. It is only a small area close to the silos. It won't take long to fill up with trucks.
Given that there has been virtually no local government or state government response to the closure it is unlikely that any significant road works will occur to alleviate the problem.
There will also be major traffic delays on roads throughout the peninsula. These are narrow roads without passing lanes. When people get frustrated driving they do stupid things and quite often innocent people get hurt or killed.
I know this sounds like the whines of a Gunzle but these are real issues and I would be saying the same if I didn't give a toss about trains.
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
Councils would have veto over load limits on roads they maintain meaning large trucks would be banned from using the roads.  if the plan is to use a standard semi and single trailer then how could it be financially viable with those tonnages.  It also takes longer to unload 40 trucks than it would 40 wagons i would suggest?
bevans
The roads from the Wudinna, Cummins and Rudall sites are State government maintained roads, not council roads.  Not so much from Kimba if they head straight south to Cleve first.   The road down to Cleve is most likely a council road, and the responsibility of the Kimba and Cleve councils.

Sealed roads are very expensive to maintain.   There have been examples where a sealed road has been torn up by a council because an unsealed road just needs a grader every so often, and a sealed road much more, particularly if the seal is just that, a layer of bitumen covered with fine gravel and rolled in.

In either case heavy vehicles do a lot of damage.

The money the government is finding to upgrade the roads would go a long way to upgrading rail, at least as far as Cummins.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne