If Australia goes down the electric route with trucks then god help the rail industry. Electric trucks will be more efficient and cost effective then diesel trains regardless of how much a train can carry.It won't so much be just electric trucks, but driverless trucks that could, and may very well destroy the rail based intermodal industry. Rail could easily lose most, if not all, traffic tasks where road capacity or lack of regulation is available.
Amazing viaducts in that plan.Will the Murrumbeena based NO Skyrail mob be setting up a sub branch group In the Darling Downs ?
The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.Are you sure about that, Sims?
https://www.railexpress.com.au/inland-rail-study-to-be-expanded?fbclid=IwAR1jFeRqqVZFONPeB2uwKuHVTlWeWLhsMuOqR9Ewj3aBreVQMoDyNvOi8l8When did ARTC reconvert SG back to BG north of Seymour? Are we in 2008?
What the heck is the CSIRO going to achieve with this study. The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
https://www.railexpress.com.au/inland-rail-study-to-be-expanded?fbclid=IwAR1jFeRqqVZFONPeB2uwKuHVTlWeWLhsMuOqR9Ewj3aBreVQMoDyNvOi8l8When did ARTC reconvert SG back to BG north of Seymour? Are we in 2008?
What the heck is the CSIRO going to achieve with this study. The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
I am sure Dangersdan707 will be partying tonight in celebration!
Reading in context is such an underrated skill.https://www.railexpress.com.au/inland-rail-study-to-be-expanded?fbclid=IwAR1jFeRqqVZFONPeB2uwKuHVTlWeWLhsMuOqR9Ewj3aBreVQMoDyNvOi8l8When did ARTC reconvert SG back to BG north of Seymour? Are we in 2008?
What the heck is the CSIRO going to achieve with this study. The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
I am sure Dangersdan707 will be partying tonight in celebration!
Doesn't the track north of seymour go to shepparton and is it not owned by vline? North east is ARTC and SG. North is BG.
@simstrain. The Inland Rail route is via Albury and not Shepparton. In fact the first stage is Tottenham to Albury.I know the inland is via albury but maybe I am mistaken and thought that the farmers were talking about using a different route further inland.
Michael
The driver costs for a truck is something like $1/t/h for a B-double on the east cost corridor, a fraction of the fuel and other running costs for the truck. New generation of diesel engines will save alot more than this.If Australia goes down the electric route with trucks then god help the rail industry. Electric trucks will be more efficient and cost effective then diesel trains regardless of how much a train can carry.It won't so much be just electric trucks, but driverless trucks that could, and may very well destroy the rail based intermodal industry. Rail could easily lose most, if not all, traffic tasks where road capacity or lack of regulation is available.
It's not just the cost of the driver though. This is a vehicle that theoretically could work almost 24/7/365. No stops for log books or rests, so long distance transit times are slashed and turnarounds accelerated. A single vehicle could potentially achieve the same amount of work as two or three conventional trucks or drivers in a 24-hour period. Driverless vehicle technology promises to be the digital disruption to land transport that Amazon has been to the retail industry. Railroads in North America are already taking the threat seriously, Australian operators should be too - and perhaps they are, looking at Aurizon's rush to abandon intermodal. Of course, the technology will have to prove itself, particularly in the robust Australian transport environment, which may delay its widespread implementation...but it is coming, and it will happen.The driver costs for a truck is something like $1/t/h for a B-double on the east cost corridor, a fraction of the fuel and other running costs for the truck. New generation of diesel engines will save alot more than this.If Australia goes down the electric route with trucks then god help the rail industry. Electric trucks will be more efficient and cost effective then diesel trains regardless of how much a train can carry.It won't so much be just electric trucks, but driverless trucks that could, and may very well destroy the rail based intermodal industry. Rail could easily lose most, if not all, traffic tasks where road capacity or lack of regulation is available.
and perhaps they are, looking at Aurizon's rush to abandon intermodal. Of course, the technology will have to prove itself, particularly in the robust Australian transport environment, which may delay its widespread implementation...but it is coming, and it will happen.I think Aurizon left because it was consistently loss making no?
Re the tech, there will be a huge consumer acceptance piece to get across - having trucks hurtling down the road will be something no politician will entertain if there is even the slightest of safety risks. Freight doesn't vote remember.The road freight sector will keep on doing what they have always done to deal with the pesky voting issue - bypass it and buy both major parties.
that only works when their interest and that of the public (ie more roads) is the same. This will represent a conflict.Re the tech, there will be a huge consumer acceptance piece to get across - having trucks hurtling down the road will be something no politician will entertain if there is even the slightest of safety risks. Freight doesn't vote remember.The road freight sector will keep on doing what they have always done to deal with the pesky voting issue - bypass it and buy both major parties.
Damm it, my plan has been found out! They Did it on my orders, Next is the Murray Basin to sneakily reconvert followed by Adelaide and Portland.https://www.railexpress.com.au/inland-rail-study-to-be-expanded?fbclid=IwAR1jFeRqqVZFONPeB2uwKuHVTlWeWLhsMuOqR9Ewj3aBreVQMoDyNvOi8l8When did ARTC reconvert SG back to BG north of Seymour? Are we in 2008?
What the heck is the CSIRO going to achieve with this study. The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
I am sure Dangersdan707 will be partying tonight in celebration!