After Market ESU decoder in 830/48 class

 
  Wee_pierre Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
I recently purchased a ESU V5 decoder and had it programed with the sound files for the 830/48. No problems with the sound files but when installed as per the instructions only the rear marker lights operate on white only. The front marker lights do not come on at all and none of  lights change to red. Also when the whistle is sound the number boards dim to almost dark then come back up after the whistle is released. I am using a Digitrax DCC system with a DT500 hand piece. The function to turn the markers on and off is F13 and all the din switches are set to on. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated thanks.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I would try and isolate the lights issue first measuring the output from the chip with a meter to ensure the wiring is correct and the chip is operating as expected.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I recently purchased a ESU V5 decoder and had it programed with the sound files for the 830/48. No problems with the sound files but when installed as per the instructions only the rear marker lights operate on white only. The front marker lights do not come on at all and none of  lights change to red. Also when the whistle is sound the number boards dim to almost dark then come back up after the whistle is released. I am using a Digitrax DCC system with a DT500 hand piece. The function to turn the markers on and off is F13 and all the din switches are set to on. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated thanks.
Wee_pierre
Is it an Auscision 48?  

Check the instruction sheet that came with the loco, there are 2 lighting sockets and i'll bet you've got it plugged into the wrong one.
  NSW3802 Locomotive Fireman

I recently purchased a ESU V5 decoder and had it programed with the sound files for the 830/48. No problems with the sound files but when installed as per the instructions only the rear marker lights operate on white only. The front marker lights do not come on at all and none of  lights change to red. Also when the whistle is sound the number boards dim to almost dark then come back up after the whistle is released. I am using a Digitrax DCC system with a DT500 hand piece. The function to turn the markers on and off is F13 and all the din switches are set to on. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated thanks.
Is it an Auscision 48?  

Check the instruction sheet that came with the loco, there are 2 lighting sockets and i'll bet you've got it plugged into the wrong one.
lkernan
I have a different problem with an ESU non sound decoder in an Auscision 830. When the loco starts it surges forward and as you increase the power it slows down and then acts as you would want. When you slow down it slows down and just as it is about to stop it surges forward and stops.

Have the accel & decel set to 1 and the start voltage set at 1, but still can't seem to get rid of the start & stop surge,

Les.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I have a different problem with an ESU non sound decoder in an Auscision 830. When the loco starts it surges forward and as you increase the power it slows down and then acts as you would want. When you slow down it slows down and just as it is about to stop it surges forward and stops.

Have the accel & decel set to 1 and the start voltage set at 1, but still can't seem to get rid of the start & stop surge,

Les.
NSW3802

I've seen the same from one of my Lokpilots in a non-Auscision loco as well.  I also haven't found an answer yet.
  Wee_pierre Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
I recently purchased a ESU V5 decoder and had it programed with the sound files for the 830/48. No problems with the sound files but when installed as per the instructions only the rear marker lights operate on white only. The front marker lights do not come on at all and none of  lights change to red. Also when the whistle is sound the number boards dim to almost dark then come back up after the whistle is released. I am using a Digitrax DCC system with a DT500 hand piece. The function to turn the markers on and off is F13 and all the din switches are set to on. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated thanks.
Is it an Auscision 48?  

Check the instruction sheet that came with the loco, there are 2 lighting sockets and i'll bet you've got it plugged into the wrong one.
I have a different problem with an ESU non sound decoder in an Auscision 830. When the loco starts it surges forward and as you increase the power it slows down and then acts as you would want. When you slow down it slows down and just as it is about to stop it surges forward and stops.

Have the accel & decel set to 1 and the start voltage set at 1, but still can't seem to get rid of the start & stop surge,

Les.
NSW3802
I had that initially it is to do with the Back EMF it tells you how to fix that in the decoder instruction sheet.
  Wee_pierre Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
I recently purchased a ESU V5 decoder and had it programed with the sound files for the 830/48. No problems with the sound files but when installed as per the instructions only the rear marker lights operate on white only. The front marker lights do not come on at all and none of  lights change to red. Also when the whistle is sound the number boards dim to almost dark then come back up after the whistle is released. I am using a Digitrax DCC system with a DT500 hand piece. The function to turn the markers on and off is F13 and all the din switches are set to on. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated thanks.
Is it an Auscision 48?  

Check the instruction sheet that came with the loco, there are 2 lighting sockets and i'll bet you've got it plugged into the wrong one.
lkernan
Thanks tried both to no avail.
  NSW3802 Locomotive Fireman

I have a different problem with an ESU non sound decoder in an Auscision 830. When the loco starts it surges forward and as you increase the power it slows down and then acts as you would want. When you slow down it slows down and just as it is about to stop it surges forward and stops.

Have the accel & decel set to 1 and the start voltage set at 1, but still can't seem to get rid of the start & stop surge,

Les.

I've seen the same from one of my Lokpilots in a non-Auscision loco as well.  I also haven't found an answer yet.
lkernan
Following the previous posts I web searched Back EMF on ESU decoders and saw a Utube clip re CV54. Followed this and read CV54, then used the F1 to get the decoder to do its calculating. The loco just kept crawling forward and seemed to take a vey long time. Tried a short cut and just programmed a 2 into CV54 to see what the result was and the surge has gone. Will experiment more.

Les
  SA_trains Deputy Commissioner

Location: ACT
I recently purchased a ESU V5 decoder and had it programed with the sound files for the 830/48. No problems with the sound files but when installed as per the instructions only the rear marker lights operate on white only. The front marker lights do not come on at all and none of  lights change to red. Also when the whistle is sound the number boards dim to almost dark then come back up after the whistle is released. I am using a Digitrax DCC system with a DT500 hand piece. The function to turn the markers on and off is F13 and all the din switches are set to on. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated thanks.
Wee_pierre

Hi Peter,

My understanding of the marker lights in the sound decoder versions is that to use F7 and F9 to cycle through the light options, Auscision and ESU did some serious programming of the decoder. Reading the instructions give a bit of a hint in that using the F7/F9 option some sound effects are no longer available.

I suspect that you are in serious decoder programming territory. I'll ping you an e-mail and give you a name of someone very knowledgeable who may be able to assist.

Aside from that, sorry, but no help.

Cheers

Dan
  Moses Wong Station Master

Looks like a better speaker for the 48.



https://youtu.be/HZ2dpjGqE1c

Cheers
MJW

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