Ballarat Line upgrades underway

 
Topic moved from News by dthead on 20 Nov 2017 12:49
  Engineeringlogic Station Master

Thanks for the photos, Gauntlet, but My God, the new Bacchus Marsh station looks ugly. Do they really have to make those bridges such a modernistic eye-sore? Are they purposely designed to jar so severely with the rural landscape? I never cease to be appalled at the sheer ugliness of modern construction.

Edit: Although, having just scrolled up and seen Rockbank, Bacchus could have been a lot worse!
ADB
Dont hate the overpasses, but i'm in the camp of underpasses. I've been living/ working in Germany the past year and they predominately do underpasses at large and surburban stations. Much nicer, very clean and light, ramps and stairs and there doesn't seem to be any accessibility problems for anyone.  Probably  cheaper to maintain in the longer run too as there are (generally) no lifts to maintain (other than at the larger stations). I think victoria is missing a trick by throwing in cheap overpasses.

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Thanks for the photos, Gauntlet, but My God, the new Bacchus Marsh station looks ugly. Do they really have to make those bridges such a modernistic eye-sore? Are they purposely designed to jar so severely with the rural landscape? I never cease to be appalled at the sheer ugliness of modern construction.

Edit: Although, having just scrolled up and seen Rockbank, Bacchus could have been a lot worse!
Don't hate the overpasses, but i'm in the camp of underpasses. I've been living/ working in Germany the past year and they predominantly do underpasses at large and suburban stations. Much nicer, very clean and light, ramps and stairs and there doesn't seem to be any accessibility problems for anyone.  Probably  cheaper to maintain in the longer run too as there are (generally) no lifts to maintain (other than at the larger stations). I think victoria is missing a trick by throwing in cheap overpasses.
Engineeringlogic

My community consultation meetings tried very hard to get an underpass at Ballan, but their minds were closed to the idea citing the depths it would need to be built down to among other things.

having said that...the architect was not happy to have to include ramps into the project and would have preferred no ramps at all.

When they started digging the base layer for the new road there were enormous boulders that were excavated from the space opposite the main platform.

The approach to ballan station is being constructed which will separate cars from people and with the patterned paving and native grasses should look good.

However I'm adjusting to the new station look with the enormous footbridge and lifts that have gone in. As I said at our last Stationeers working bee...we can always grow something over it...like a nice scenty wisteria.

Mike.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
The overpass, stairs, ramps and southern car park are now open at Bacchus Marsh.
The Parkiteer has been moved closer to the level crossing and the northern car park is being upgraded.
Meanwhile, the signal box is still waiting to be painted.

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  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland

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It would good If they reopened this section of original platform, In front of the historic station building.
The reason It was closed off was to fit In a turnout Into the stabling yard, but that turnout Is now redundant.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Is the turntable still connected to the mainline?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Is the turntable still connected to the mainline?
Dangersdan707

Yes.
  whoistheg Station Master

Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Anyone else hearing mumblings and talk of a 3 week shutdown in Nov and buses ?

I heard a few whispers on the trains in the past 2 days
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Anyone else hearing mumblings and talk of a 3 week shutdown in Nov and buses ?

I heard a few whispers on the trains in the past 2 days
whoistheg
Oct 19-24 buses replace trains between SCS and Bacchus Marsh/Melton.  That's primarily for Hopkins Rd LX crossing.

Perhaps a Nov shutdown will be for the final turnout connections and signalling?
  whoistheg Station Master

Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Yeah I was aware of the Oct one as I have organised work from home but the Nov ones comes as a surprise..

I noticed there are still quite a few rail crossings that have not even been started yet.

I guess there will be a push before end of year..
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
If the Bacchus Marsh station photos had been posted without identifying headings, I'd have thought I was looking at a cement factory.
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

If the Bacchus Marsh station photos had been posted without identifying headings, I'd have thought I was looking at a cement factory.
Valvegear
Yep, elegant it aint, strictly functional
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
I think there are that many boxes to tick when designing a new station now, such as environmental issues, safety concerns & DDA compliance that design itself is limited to not much more than a nondescript concrete box with exceedingly long ramps.

Hideous design features, such as whatever that is tacked on to the sides of the footbridge at Rockbank, is all they can seem to come up with to distinguish each individual structure.

So yeah, functional.
  whoistheg Station Master
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I think there are that many boxes to tick when designing a new station now, such as environmental issues, safety concerns & DDA compliance that design itself is limited to not much more than a nondescript concrete box with exceedingly long ramps.

Hideous design features, such as whatever that is tacked on to the sides of the footbridge at Rockbank, is all they can seem to come up with to distinguish each individual structure.

So yeah, functional.
Gman_86

I was pleasantly surprised about Rockbank.

The whatever is tacked on to the sides of the footbridge at Rockbank is clearly meant to signify rocks. I'm no volcanologist...however it's exceedingly obvious the nearby Mt Aitken blew its top millennia ago and spewed scoria type rocks all about the place.

The northern pedestrian friendly approach to the station with the strategically placed boulders and patterned pavement, highlighting the rocks combined with the native plantings made for an amazing sight from the bus last week.

Normally this would not be seen from the train, but I'm very happy that this is an exceptional gateway to the expanded Rockbank locality as it grows exponentially and is in amazing contrast to the shed that was once there.

Bacchus Marsh is probably similarly presented and at Ballan the pine bark is being spread about this week which is softening everything and the high speed readers...fantastic...the crowd just moves through seamlessly without delays.

Ballan station will be retaining its garden...I'll be making sure of that and I'm looking at further beautifying this precinct as I want to get a project up on the south side, incorporating the pine trees and native grasses. The 'BALLAN' gateway sign will soon be moved to the vicinity of the still in-situ ½ mile post as well.

Mike.
  footscrazy Station Master

Sounds great Mike!
Will have to check it out
Keep up the good work!
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
I agree about Rockbank, compared with what was there, the new station is magnificent. I hadn't put 2 and 2 together with the volcanic rock, it makes a bit more sense now that I look at it with that in mind.

My main point of distaste is with the combination of new and old with the established stations at Bacchus Marsh and Ballan. I would have preferred a style in keeping with the existing structures but as I was saying, I understand why that isn't always possible with the array of new priorities that must be considered when designing such a structure.

Ultimately, I am just happy that the improvements have been made, even if the design isn't my taste, the fact the work has been done is what's most important.
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
I think making Bacchus Marsh and Ballan green and cream to tie in with the roofs of the existing buildings might have made a bit more sense? Obviously something new is going to look different to what is already there, but they do come across as not tying in at all.
  changer Station Master

Nearest volcanic landform is probably Mt. Cottrell which last erupted over 1 mill years ago.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Nearest volcanic landform is probably Mt. Cottrell which last erupted over 1 mill years ago.
changer

Yes, that's probably the volcano I was referring to.

M.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Mike have you noticed on your travels any change in patronage using the new Rockbank station?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Mike have you noticed on your travels any change in patronage using the new Rockbank station?
bevans

Patronage is up and the number of cars at the new car park...also up. I only see the increase if I travel on weekends as at other times I'm express through there.
People from Melton are probably parking there as are people from places further out from Melton due to the quick and easy access from the Western Highway.

Mike.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
At Wendouree there's been quite a bit of progress with the lifts, the stairs are almost done, and the framework for one of the ramps is up.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Cobblebank updates

  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
According to this media release
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/191022-Cobblebank-Station-To-Open-In-Early-December.pdf?utm_source=miragenews&utm_medium=miragenews&utm_campaign=news
Cobblebank station and the 18 km section of extra track between Melton and Caroline Springs will open on Monday 2 December.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
According to this media release
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/191022-Cobblebank-Station-To-Open-In-Early-December.pdf?utm_source=miragenews&utm_medium=miragenews&utm_campaign=news
Cobblebank station and the 18 km section of extra track between Melton and Caroline Springs will open on Monday 2 December.
Gauntlet

Are we to assume this will also mean the introduction of Metro trains on this section?

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