Ballarat Line upgrades underway

 
Topic moved from News by dthead on 20 Nov 2017 12:49
  skitz Chief Commissioner

As you travel around on your motorised two wheeled conveyance...perhaps a Vespa, observing the rail network from a distance...it might be an advantage to leave the bike at home and actually travel on the Ballarat line as I do...both during weekdays and on weekends.

Mike.
Nothing wrong with Vespas Mike although as a staunch Lambretta man myself I do consider them a little mundane.

What are you trying to imply by suggesting that ZH rides a scooter? Such prejudice. 60 million Italians can't be wrong you know.......

It’s time to sort out this dissension in the ranks and come to an gentleman's agreement
 but seriously this post is up to 19 pages
and I’m betting it will make 50pages by the time the upgrades are finished . (I’m sorry that’s a miss print)


I encourage free speech and robust debate and would like to see the vesper issue settled by race similar to the race from London to Edinborough that was on TV program “Top Gear” between a car, a motor bike and steam loco Tornado
( Look up U tube great story).    

A race from Southern X to Melton between a Vesper, a Gogo mobile and a Velocity rail car. No further because the Gogo mobile would run out of brake’s coming down Anthony’s Cutting.
Im not a betting man ,but it would be a close race    
david harvey
Its always a bit laughable hearing Bendigo and Balarat people complain about being stuck behind sparks or local services.

The Gippsland line has 60km of congestion behind sparks and then stattions only a few km apart.   The most rediculous average speed results.

Always said, given a free run at the emergency lane on the Monash, my Fergie tractor is an even odds bet beating a Velocity to Pakenham.

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line

Do you really think riding on a few trains gives you more insight than the actual statistics?  Because that's what you're claiming.
ZH836301

Yes Exclamation

...and you're comparing apples with oranges anyway.

AND it appears you've gone back to that 'higher plane of existence'

Mike.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line

A race from Southern X to Melton between a Vesper, a Gogo mobile and a Velocity rail car. No further because the Gogo mobile would run out of brake’s coming down Anthony’s Cutting.
Im not a betting man ,but it would be a close race    
david harvey

For the record it's:

Vespa
Goggomobil
V'Locity (check the spelling by the drivers cab mirror)

BTW Anthony's cutting no longer exists, hasn't for a few years now and it's BEYOND Melton.

Mike.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Not the dart !
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

VLocity or VLocity 160. The Gogomobil was not to venture beyond Melton.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
G-O-G-G-O.....
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Always said, given a free run at the emergency lane on the Monash, my Fergie tractor is an even odds bet beating a Velocity to Pakenham.
skitz
Alrighty, while we're identifying vehicle's then ... the Fergie Grey or Red.....Razz.. slap a picture of er up if ya like..Wink

All modes of transport are covered here.

BigShunter.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Its always a bit laughable hearing Bendigo and Balarat people complain about being stuck behind sparks or local services.

The Gippsland line has 60km of congestion behind sparks and then stattions only a few km apart.   The most rediculous average speed results.

Always said, given a free run at the emergency lane on the Monash, my Fergie tractor is an even odds bet beating a Velocity to Pakenham.
skitz
Ah yes Skitz but you miss one vital point - the Gippy line is not served by the miraculous RRL which was going to fix all the problems of V/Line services having to interact with Sparks on the Bendigo, Ballarat and Geetroit lines.

Spoiler alert - it didn't
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Consolidation trains have been running since last night between Caroline Springs and beyond Melton.

One is a loaded SSR Grain train with S302-S317 in push-pull arrangement.

The other is a Qube rake with cement and containers with G512 up one end, and B76+2 T-class at the other.

They should run until this evening.  So it looks good for a reopening on Monday I would imagine.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Driver training runs have been in operation today between Caroline Springs and Parwan Loop, utilising N455, N456 and N472
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The latest view of Bacchus Marsh Railway Station.  Note the turntable still in place to the left which is good news.  Would love to see the K's out there for a run to the Marsh at the new station.

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Cobblebank station public opening to be celebrated

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/article-51397/
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
More driver training runs again today, with N452, N456, N472 and N473 all running solo return trips between Caroline Springs and Parwan Loop just like yesterday.

No excuses, should be right to go come Monday morning.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
The latest view of Bacchus Marsh Railway Station.  Note the turntable still in place to the left which is good news.  Would love to see the K's out there for a run to the Marsh at the new station.

bevans
With the Ballarat line still having an hourly frequency on a weekend according to the new timetable, pathing on a Saturday or Sunday wouldn't be so much a problem as it was before. Even a series of shuttles between Caroline Springs and Melton would be easy to achieve (theoretically speaking of course, I am not trying to tell Steamrail or 707 Ops how easy their work is or isn't) in a similar style to what they have done to commemorate the opening of LXRA projects on the Frankston and Dandenong lines.

It would be good to see, although, with the fire season and its associated steam restrictions about to kick off, we may have to wait until April.
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
More driver training runs again today, with N452, N456, N472 and N473 all running solo return trips between Caroline Springs and Parwan Loop just like yesterday.

No excuses, should be right to go come Monday morning.
Gman_86
When they built the Maddingley Stabling they didn't run empty sets out there on the Sunday evening so they had to cancel some of the shorts in the morning peak the next day. Hopefully they've learnt from that mistake!
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I was on the 06:32 ex Ballan this morning.

Good run to Maddingley sidings where we slowed before rolling into the platform. A few new overhead stanchions have gone up in the three weeks and due to some fault we left and rolled slowly to Parwan loop on the main line.

Sped up after Parwan to the approach to the Melton weir viaduct where we slowed...thinking we would diverge to the north line...but we did not. We continued at a reduced speed, around 50 km/h through Melton platform 1...there was an N set with H cars in Platform 2, then diverged to the north line.
Nobody on Cobblebank station as we rolled through around 07:10 which will soon change as another estate starts up between there and Rockbank.

After the driver got used to the idea he had us up to 130km/h+ before slowing on the remains of the old Rockbank loop where the track was less smooth than the north line, then up to 130km/h+ again before the Hopkins Rd crossing then coasted along around that speed till just before Caroline Springs.
I wouldn't be surprised if what's left of the old Rockbank loop is a lighter gauge of rail than the heavy duty rails on the remainder of the line, hence the probable long term 130Km/h speed restriction.

We crossed a down at some speed also around Rockbank which was good on the now double track.

Arrival time at SCS was a few minutes down due to operational matters, but overall the new track worked well...

Footnote: I believe the mounds of dirt along the perway in the vicinity of Ballan station are soil dug up for the track upgrade which contains 'low level' asbestos...whatever that means.
Why the soil wasn't left in-situ is beyond me as there would be hundreds of truck loads to be moved to be cleaned...if it ever does.

Ballan station looks good, notwithstanding the building itself which really needs a decent renovation and we are getting the garden back underway again. With all this rain we don't have to water anything, however the landscapers will have some questions to answer at the community open day

Mike.
  whoistheg Station Master

Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Why does the new track just out from Ballan station have a smaller set of rails inside the main track ?

From about Stead St underpass to maybe Waddle st ?

What are these used for ?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A colleague of mine also caught the UP Wendouree train this morning to SCS and when asked what the new track was like he responded by not sure I slept all the way. Smile
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
A colleague of mine also caught the UP Wendouree train this morning to SCS and when asked what the new track was like he responded by not sure I slept all the way. Smile
bevans

Compared to the bus...SMOOTH.

M.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
Why does the new track just out from Ballan station have a smaller set of rails inside the main track ?

From about Stead St underpass to maybe Waddle st ?

What are these used for ?
whoistheg
Guide rails, to keep a train upright if it derails on a bridge, or near a structure it can collide with. They are common on new built stuff all over the state since RRL.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Being an old coot, I always understood them to be called check rails.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Guard rails?
  david harvey Chief Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale

A race from Southern X to Melton between a Vesper, a Goggo mobile and a Velocity rail car. No further because the Gogo mobile would run out of brake’s coming down Anthony’s Cutting.
Im not a betting man ,but it would be a close race    

For the record it's:

Vespa
Goggomobil
V'Locity (check the spelling by the drivers cab mirror)

BTW Anthony's cutting no longer exists, hasn't for a few years now and it's BEYOND Melton.

Mike.
The Vinelander
Its only a race to Melton ,it doesn't go down Anthonys cutting that's beyond Melton. Whats  BTW ????
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Whats  BTW ????
"david harvey"

See "BTW Anthony's" in The Vinelander's post;  it means "Buttered Toast With Anthony's"

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