100 km of new speed restrictions on Seymour and Gippsland lines

 
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

What on earth is going on at V/line? They may as well throw the new timetables out the window already. What a mess!

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  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
V/Line:  You expect us to run trains AND maintain the track?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Could these be heat related for over the summer?
  SinickleBird Chief Train Controller

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
Climate change
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Could these be heat related for over the summer?
bevans
The Victorian Government running out of money, because their blowing It like a drunken sailor.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
Not sure about the Seymour line, but with these speed restrictions Gippsland commuters are being conditioned for longer journey times in anticipation of Pakenham terminations and being forced onto Metro trains into the city. When that happens the Vlocitys will again be allowed to run at 160 km/h outside of the Metro area, lessening the effect of a longer overall trip time.
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

Not sure about the Seymour line, but with these speed restrictions Gippsland commuters are being conditioned for longer journey times in anticipation of Pakenham terminations and being forced onto Metro trains into the city. When that happens the Vlocitys will again be allowed to run at 160 km/h outside of the Metro area, lessening the effect of a longer overall trip time.
DirtyBallast
right on the money.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Could these be heat related for over the summer?
The Victorian Government running out of money, because their blowing It like a drunken sailor.
Nightfire

If they could stick to the budget then better.  Is this deferred maintenance in that case?
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

They told us it is because the V’locity is 10 tonnes heavier per 3 car set than they are supposed to be. Hence the 115 on the Seymour only applies to V’l, but those lovely Sprinters can still do 130.

I assume the various engineers will have to work something out, while the important people (like HR) tell everyone what a great job they are doing
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I assume the various engineers will have to work something out,
"hbedriver"
V Line has engineers?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Not sure about the Seymour line, but with these speed restrictions Gippsland commuters are being conditioned for longer journey times in anticipation of Pakenham terminations and being forced onto Metro trains into the city. When that happens the Vlocitys will again be allowed to run at 160 km/h outside of the Metro area, lessening the effect of a longer overall trip time.
DirtyBallast
I can't see there been a great deal of time lost with the maximum speed been dropped from 130 km/h to 115 km/h (North Track) because of the close spacings of stations.

There Is stuff all fast running between Longwarry and Warragul, most of the many curves are 100 km/h

If trains from Traralgon get terminated at Pakenham, they forward passengers on to road coaches (that usually do the run between Pakenham and Melbourne much quicker than the train timetable (though this Is not always the case, such as during peak times)
The change over time at Pakenham Is the most annoying part, Is usually around 30 to 40 minutes (on a down)
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
They told us it is because the V’locity is 10 tonnes heavier per 3 car set than they are supposed to be. Hence the 115 on the Seymour only applies to V’l, but those lovely Sprinters can still do 130.

I assume the various engineers will have to work something out, while the important people (like HR) tell everyone what a great job they are doing
hbedriver
Interesting twist HBE. Did the TSRs on the East track Bendigo line get removed or are they still in place?

I was thinking before your post that V/line might be engaging in maintenance by Social Media - put a TSR on a line which causes passenger disruption, count to 10 until the Socials go BANG and then what do you know, the $$$ miraculously appears from the pollies to do the job.

Reload and move on to the next line. Or am I being too cynical. Again.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Might have answered my own question this morning. A heap of brand spanking new concrete sticks laid out between Macedon and Woodend and 2 big stacks of them at the Down end of Woodend station.

The ones already laid out are next to the West track so I might have got it wrong earlier, it would make sense that the TSRs are / were on the West track which is 160km/h in parts rather than the East track which is 130 km/h most of the way.


Track machines also in the siding at Gisborne so I assume a heap of night time work going on ATM

Hopefully they get sent to Seymour / Gippsland lines next.
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

Bendigo Line speed reduction only on the east track, west line still good for the original 160 (to down end Macedon then again from just past the freeway to Elphinstone, then Porcupine hill to Golden Square). The sticks you saw could be for the area over Mt Macedon, or even another mistake. Will find out later on
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Bendigo Line speed reduction only on the east track, west line still good for the original 160 (to down end Macedon then again from just past the freeway to Elphinstone, then Porcupine hill to Golden Square). The sticks you saw could be for the area over Mt Macedon, or even another mistake. Will find out later on
hbedriver
Ah, good, I wasn't messing it up, I thought it was East track. I wonder if the 130 from Down end Macedon to the Calder or thereabouts is due to track condition (I assume it was never 160 through there and in that section there is still plenty of timber even on the West track IIRC). I always thought it was on account of the grade. But that is exactly where I saw the sticks laid out this morning.
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

I think it is more the curves than anything. All curves are good for 130, but almost no straight track; I guess they didn’t think it worthwhile to upgrade to 160. Same around Elphinstone tunnel to Castlemaine through to Harcourt loop, so many curves so no upgrade to 160 standards. Which probably explains the rough ride you get.

And don’t start me on why they had to take out the second track through the tunnel when they kept line speed at 130...

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