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    Topic moved from News by bevans on 15 Dec 2019 19:39
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Could this be the first example of a heritage railway (Picton to Buxton) running a service for the RFS or CFA for any preservation railway?

    Rail heritage train brings water to drought stricken rural village fire service
    Posted: 15 Dec 2019 20:05

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      lkernan Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Melbourne
    Could this be the first example of a heritage railway (Picton to Buxton) running a service for the RFS or CFA for any preservation railway?

    Rail heritage train brings water to drought stricken rural village fire service
    bevans
    Apparently they've done it on previous occasions to Buxton as well.

    Reading now that the fire has crossed the rail line and the Hume is closed.   The news article didn't detail which line though.
    Buxton would seem to be right in the line of fire and people from Tahmoor are being told to head toward Picton.
    Posted: 19 Dec 2019 15:50
      dm211060 Station Staff

    Could this be the first example of a heritage railway (Picton to Buxton) running a service for the RFS or CFA for any preservation railway?

    Rail heritage train brings water to drought stricken rural village fire service
    Apparently they've done it on previous occasions to Buxton as well.

    Reading now that the fire has crossed the rail line and the Hume is closed.   The news article didn't detail which line though.
    Buxton would seem to be right in the line of fire and people from Tahmoor are being told to head toward Picton.
    lkernan
    Yes the RTM has helped out the local area on at least one previous occasion in my recollection.
    Fire crossing rail line at Balmoral would mean the loop line .
    Posted: 19 Dec 2019 20:23
      LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

    Location: Not in Victoria
    Could this be the first example of a heritage railway (Picton to Buxton) running a service for the RFS or CFA for any preservation railway?

    Rail heritage train brings water to drought stricken rural village fire service
    Apparently they've done it on previous occasions to Buxton as well.

    Reading now that the fire has crossed the rail line and the Hume is closed.   The news article didn't detail which line though.
    Buxton would seem to be right in the line of fire and people from Tahmoor are being told to head toward Picton.
    Yes the RTM has helped out the local area on at least one previous occasion in my recollection.
    Fire crossing rail line at Balmoral would mean the loop line .
    dm211060
    Word is that its crossed both the Loop Line and the Main Line.

    Feel for all the locals in the area.
    Posted: 20 Dec 2019 09:11
      Oztrainz Beginner

    Hi all,
    The then NSWRTM ran several refill runs to near the Balmoral RFS location with one or more their water tanks during the Christmas Day bushfires in 2001. The use of their (SWT??) rail tankers cut the refill times for the NSWRFS units significantly when compared to refilling from the available street hydrants.  

    I have seen a photo of former AI&S diesel D1 on the tankers at Balmoral, but I can't remember where. From memory, this was later reported in their Roundhouse magazine and the NSWRFS magazine, as well as getting at least 1 mention in Sydney newspapers.

    Regards,
    Posted: 21 Dec 2019 08:36
      ssaunders Train Controller

    A good cause, many of the Thirlmere workshop workers live int eh area as well so a win win.
    Posted: 24 Dec 2019 09:17

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      Oztrainz Beginner

    Hi all,
    I have heard an unconfirmed report of bushfire damage to NSWRM loop line at Buxton. Extent of damage is unknown.

    Some conjecture by me - given the catastrophic damage to the Balmoral township, it might be a long while before anything gets to Balmoral on the Loop line rails again.
    Regards,
    Posted: 29 Dec 2019 15:40
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    More trains running

    Posted: 03 Jan 2020 15:01
      apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Location: Location.
    A 44 could pull a lot more than that. And what happened to the six wheeled water gin we used to use?
    Posted: 03 Jan 2020 15:24
      YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    More to the point what happened to the multitude of ex AN water gins that were left with the end of Gangs at line locations on the Trans-Australian Railway?
    Posted: 03 Jan 2020 17:18

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      nswtrains Chief Commissioner

    More to the point what happened to the multitude of ex AN water gins that were left with the end of Gangs at line locations on the Trans-Australian Railway?
    YM-Mundrabilla
    And how long ago was that? Probably scraped.
    Posted: 04 Jan 2020 14:20
      YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    More to the point what happened to the multitude of ex AN water gins that were left with the end of Gangs at line locations on the Trans-Australian Railway?
    And how long ago was that? Probably scraped.
    nswtrains
    No doubt.
    Posted: 07 Jan 2020 13:27
      c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

    Location: in the cuckoos nest
    On Friday 03/01/20, a THNSW train was observed waiting in the Loop Line at the Picton Frame with 4490 leading 3 x Water Gins, facing towards Sydney.  Observed from SN42 about 09:20.  Later observation was 1 x Gin at Bundanoon in Up Refuge and 2 x Gins at Wingello in Down Refuge for firefighting purposes.  4490 had apparently returned to Thirlmere.  Observed from SN57 between 18:15 and 18:45.  Repeat observation of Gin locations on Saturday 04/01/20, but this time observed from nearby roads.

    John
    Posted: 10 Jan 2020 22:28

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      MetroFemme Assistant Commissioner

    Why not deploy more trains using this method across the country.
    Posted: 11 Jan 2020 15:07
      Nightfire Minister for Railways

    Location: Gippsland
    Why not deploy more trains using this method across the country.
    MetroFemme
    For firefighting ?

    They use pumper trucks on dams to replenish fire tankers.

    If reticulated water Is available at adequate pressure, a stand pipe would be used, If the pressure Is Inadequate, a pumper truck would be used.

    No water available In the area where firefighting Is required, unlikely there would be a serviceable railway nearby and a train available to carry water.
    Posted: 12 Jan 2020 13:44
      Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

    Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
    Why not deploy more trains using this method across the country.
    MetroFemme
    All well and good so long as there's a railhead where it's needed. It wouldn't help with the East Gippsland fires in Vic. for example as the nearest line would be too far away.
    Posted: 13 Jan 2020 23:53

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