Train crash/fire BARNAWARTHA

 
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Thread cleaned.  Some post removed entirely. Some form a new threa dint he locomotive & Rollingstock section.

This thread is about that  incident - stick to it please.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The V/Line loco involved in the accident was N474 however through Bunbury Street not long ago on the UP was N457 with coaches in tow.  

Recorded at Bunbury Street.
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

457 was rostered for a test run of some sort. Don’t know whether the loco or some carriages were being tested
  david harvey Chief Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale Wharf
457 was rostered for a test run of some sort. Don’t know whether the loco or some carriages were being tested
hbedriver
Am I being to optimistic about passenger rail services resuming soon .Has the XPT started running again or is it the Partridge Family Bus replacement service on the Victorian side
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Has the line reopened as yet?
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Has the line reopened as yet?
bevans
Yes, it reopened Saturday evening.
  420renegade Station Staff

One line is open
other is still closed
XPT's terminating at Albury
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
One line is open
other is still closed
XPT's terminating at Albury
420renegade
Are the V/Line pax running?

Edit: Just saw one go past so I guess the answer is yes.
  Contrillion Junior Train Controller

Location: Geelong, Victoria
One line is open
other is still closed
XPT's terminating at Albury
Are the V/Line pax running?

Edit: Just saw one go past so I guess the answer is yes.
Fatty
Not running in revenue service but I have seen a couple of test runs go out on the SG from Melbourne.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
One line is open
other is still closed
XPT's terminating at Albury
Are the V/Line pax running?

Edit: Just saw one go past so I guess the answer is yes.
Fatty
Not running until further notice.

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Any ideas why?  pathing should be fine even with a single track in use on the northern extremity.

Assuming this has been moved

  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Any ideas why?  pathing should be fine even with a single track in use on the northern extremity.

Assuming this has been moved

bevans
Freighters are running so it must have at least been pushed to the side for them to get past.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
1.7km track damage - can't remember which side.

Absolute work site occupation 0600-1800hrs daily.

Freights get through 1800-0600
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
And another one

  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
1.7km track damage - can't remember which side.

Absolute work site occupation 0600-1800hrs daily.

Freights get through 1800-0600
bingley hall

last V/line departure from Albury is usually after 18:00?
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

How can you run it if the train is stuck on the other side of the occupation?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
How can you run it if the train is stuck on the other side of the occupation?
justapassenger
Indeed which raises another question, how many SG sets do V/Line have in service ATM?

What is stopping them running services to Wang or Benalla or other? Do none of these places have any way for loco to run around?

I know they couldn't stable a set there overnight but why cancel all services all the way to Melbourne? Anyone who travels by rail knows that the worst part of the coach trip is hitting the Melbourne traffic. Why not a push-pull service to Seymour or somewhere beyond to reduce the inconvenience to pax?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Exactly what we are all asking up here. It is either all or nothing with this stupid mob. Bus to wang would be fine.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
You're all making the mistake of believing that V Line cares about customer comfort and convenience.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The problem being they do not care if they run trains or buses.

Has become the norm for the Albury line once proud and well managed.

Not under james pinder
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
We all need to remember that SG is anathema to Vline and any excuse to bustitute the NE line is to be seized with both hands, feet and teeth.

I assume that one loco is damaged but do not know what, if any, damage the passenger cars suffered but even examination is likely to take ages and then the cars might be suffering PTSD which should be good until whenever.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
We all need to remember that SG is anathema to Vline and any excuse to bustitute the NE line is to be seized with both hands, feet and teeth.

I assume that one loco is damaged but do not know what, if any, damage the passenger cars suffered but even examination is likely to take ages and then the cars might be suffering PTSD which should be good until whenever.
YM-Mundrabilla
There's a nice scratch along the side of the set, along with dents on the door frames from where the container hit
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

How can you run it if the train is stuck on the other side of the occupation?
Indeed which raises another question, how many SG sets do V/Line have in service ATM?

What is stopping them running services to Wang or Benalla or other? Do none of these places have any way for loco to run around?

I know they couldn't stable a set there overnight but why cancel all services all the way to Melbourne? Anyone who travels by rail knows that the worst part of the coach trip is hitting the Melbourne traffic. Why not a push-pull service to Seymour or somewhere beyond to reduce the inconvenience to pax?
BrentonGolding
All the run around facilities have been removed, you may be able to juggle a set at Benella if you have a shunying loco on standby.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
How can you run it if the train is stuck on the other side of the occupation?
Indeed which raises another question, how many SG sets do V/Line have in service ATM?

What is stopping them running services to Wang or Benalla or other? Do none of these places have any way for loco to run around?

I know they couldn't stable a set there overnight but why cancel all services all the way to Melbourne? Anyone who travels by rail knows that the worst part of the coach trip is hitting the Melbourne traffic. Why not a push-pull service to Seymour or somewhere beyond to reduce the inconvenience to pax?
All the run around facilities have been removed, you may be able to juggle a set at Benella if you have a shunying loco on standby.
trainbrain
Cannot the crossovers north and south of Wangaratta be used in these circumstances ?

https://www.artc.com.au/uploads/OGW-30-30_Diagram.pdf
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

Yes, the Wangaratta points and signalling allows for trains to terminate and run round. Sadly, it does not seem to allow for quick repairs to a damaged train.

one car set is in Gemco for heavy overhauls (SN8, with power PC 260, the converted ACZ car, of which rumours abound). Another (SN !?) is undergoing maintenance, not yet available. Either SN 15 or SN 16 was in this bingle and is now in for unplanned repairs. That leaves only one set to run the service.

Anticipated some sort of services to resume to Albury from Monday (they have a weekend shutdown; dunno why, I guess the tea-spoon gang needs some overtime).

The two V/Line drivers on 474 during this incident are back at work now, all OK there. Neither wants to be on a Velocity up that line; I think it was the third time since ARTC took over that a passenger train has struck a derailed goods or loading that fell off one. Seems a higher rate of such events than elsewhere.

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