Scott Morrison's imploding act

 

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  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Things can't get any worse for Scomo today with the nationals deputy speaker stunt, more train wreck interviews by nationals (afternoon briefing) and Libs alike (insiders on Sunday).

Wannabe Joyce keeps stirring the pot (of baby poo) and it's flying thick and fast.
ANR
Michael McCormack should relax now, he’s walking the green mile. Just a matter of time.

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  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Things can't get any worse for Scomo today with the nationals deputy speaker stunt, more train wreck interviews by nationals (afternoon briefing) and Libs alike (insiders on Sunday).

Wannabe Joyce keeps stirring the pot (of baby poo) and it's flying thick and fast.
ANR
I have a theory that the Labor Party is so un-electable that it doesn't matter how bad the LNP get - they'll still get re-elected.

I was reading this report the other day written by Craig Emerson and Jay Weatherill trying to find causes for the stonking loss that the Labor Party suffered in May last year. They only lightly brush on the real reasons for the loss in my opinion. Page 59:

Labor lost support amongst its traditional base of lower-income working people. Economically vulnerable workers living in outer-metropolitan, regional and rural Australia have lost trust in politicians and political institutions. Not only are they alienated from the political process, they are too busy working and caring for their families to be concerned with issues they consider irrelevant to their lives. Indeed, they are often resentful of the attention progressive political parties give at their expense to minority groups and to what is nowadays called identity politics.

They don't give any more in-depth analysis to it than that; they just say that Labor lost touch with those people and didn't know how to reconnect with them. It just isn't good enough; they offer no solutions other than MORE welfare and MORE green policies when it's already been demonstrated to them that those policies aren't appealing to the people whose votes they need to win. People in rural and regional Australia are struggling and they need JOBS, good-paying stable jobs. Mind you, they're not getting that from the LNP either but they get told about coal mines closing and more green policies that will cost them money in electricity charges and they're repulsed.

The Labor Party is un-electable and they badly need to buy a clue because they don't have one. Tanya Plibersek desperately lashing out on Australia Day and trying to say that there needed be an 'oath of allegiance' with school children was a tiny hint of the ALP trying to re-orient their course toward populism but really their heart isn't in it: They're the original globalist Thatcherites and they offer nothing to the people whose votes they desperately need.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Things can't get any worse for Scomo today with the nationals deputy speaker stunt, more train wreck interviews by nationals (afternoon briefing) and Libs alike (insiders on Sunday).

Wannabe Joyce keeps stirring the pot (of baby poo) and it's flying thick and fast.
I have a theory that the Labor Party is so un-electable that it doesn't matter how bad the LNP get - they'll still get re-elected.

I was reading this report the other day written by Craig Emerson and Jay Weatherill trying to find causes for the stonking loss that the Labor Party suffered in May last year. They only lightly brush on the real reasons for the loss in my opinion. Page 59:

Labor lost support amongst its traditional base of lower-income working people. Economically vulnerable workers living in outer-metropolitan, regional and rural Australia have lost trust in politicians and political institutions. Not only are they alienated from the political process, they are too busy working and caring for their families to be concerned with issues they consider irrelevant to their lives. Indeed, they are often resentful of the attention progressive political parties give at their expense to minority groups and to what is nowadays called identity politics.

They don't give any more in-depth analysis to it than that; they just say that Labor lost touch with those people and didn't know how to reconnect with them. It just isn't good enough; they offer no solutions other than MORE welfare and MORE green policies when it's already been demonstrated to them that those policies aren't appealing to the people whose votes they need to win. People in rural and regional Australia are struggling and they need JOBS, good-paying stable jobs. Mind you, they're not getting that from the LNP either but they get told about coal mines closing and more green policies that will cost them money in electricity charges and they're repulsed.

The Labor Party is un-electable and they badly need to buy a clue because they don't have one. Tanya Plibersek desperately lashing out on Australia Day and trying to say that there needed be an 'oath of allegiance' with school children was a tiny hint of the ALP trying to re-orient their course toward populism but really their heart isn't in it: They're the original globalist Thatcherites and they offer nothing to the people whose votes they desperately need.
don_dunstan
Don. The ALP is not unelectable and will probably win the next federal election unless there is an earlier election due to the LNP shooting themselves in the foot and a vote of no confidence gets up. The facts are that the LNP vote went backwards at the last election and they only survived through minor parties increasing their vote due to the fix put in by Clive Palmer and his $50 million odd he splashed out.

The way the Nationals are going it might be sooner than later. I notice that guy that quit the Nationals quickly latched onto the Deputy Speaker job at extra bucks in his pocket. And what can you really say about Barnyard. He grows madder by the hour.

I wont delve into the North Queensland coal mine that the Nats want but the Libs don't want to know about.
  ANR Deputy Commissioner

The A L P lost the federal election because:

- they pitched left wing policies to court green voters in the cities, losing everyone else in the process (the silent majority)
- Chinese whispers and misinformation e.g. death taxes, fuelled by point #1
- trust factor of Billy Bob (formerly one of the faceless men)
- campaign by the big end of town and miners in the media

Whoever wins the next election at any level of government needs to govern for all, and take everyone with them, or we will end up divided, like Trump town.

And I did not need to write a long report.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The A L P lost the federal election because:

- they pitched left wing policies to court green voters in the cities, losing everyone else in the process (the silent majority)
- Chinese whispers and misinformation e.g. death taxes, fuelled by point #1
- trust factor of Billy Bob (formerly one of the faceless men)
- campaign by the big end of town and miners in the media

Whoever wins the next election at any level of government needs to govern for all, and take everyone with them, or we will end up divided, like Trump town.

And I did not need to write a long report.
ANR
There's no plan from either side about how to re-enfranchise the several million marginally attached people in this country - none. But the Labor Party wanted to spend an undefined amount of money (the estimate was $387,000,000,000 over ten years) to try and cut carbon emissions by around 45%.

By and large most Australians are not concerned about the Church of Climatology and even with the recent bushfires I doubt that the scare-mongering from the Greens has really made them change their minds. Read tweets from people like Independent member for Warringah Zali Steggall - she sincerely believes that the anti-carbon movement has the vast majority of Australians agree with them and they don't. It's just a delusion created by the fact that they live in cosseted parts of the world with high incomes and plenty of opportunities but if she moved out of her comfort zone and into the Hunter Valley or Central QLD she'd soon find that people just don't think climate change is among their priorities.

There's a huge gap between those inner-city "woke progressives" who think they know best and the rest of the country versus those scraping by with no wage rises in eight years and some of the most expensive utilities and housing in the world - that's at the core of the problem.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
There's a huge gap between those inner-city "woke progressives" who think they know best and the rest of the country versus those scraping by with no wage rises in eight years and some of the most expensive utilities and housing in the world - that's at the core of the problem.
don_dunstan
Maybe too many of the later just listen to ratbag radio and vote accordingly. Keep doing the same thing and expect a different result!
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Maybe you listen to too much woke ABC radio and take all your talking points from them.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
There's a huge gap between those inner-city "woke progressives" who think they know best and the rest of the country versus those scraping by with no wage rises in eight years and some of the most expensive utilities and housing in the world - that's at the core of the problem.
Maybe too many of the later just listen to ratbag radio and vote accordingly. Keep doing the same thing and expect a different result!
Groundrelay
Or maybe they're too busy trying to pay the highest electricity charges in the world to worry about some nebulous climate change monster?
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Peter van Onselen is tweeting out that there's moves afoot in the Labor Party to replace Albo... personally I thought that Albo has been doing a fair job considering the humiliating flogging that they got last May. Better than Mumbles Shorten anyway.
  ANR Deputy Commissioner

Albo has a good political mind, he has earned trust over the years, but is not a great orator. He struggles with articulation, and slurs his speech. Like the coalition, the labor party is racked with factions and infighting and this I feel is beyond Albo.

On the other hand, Shorten was very good at talking to the press, making short work of government weakness and scandals, but wasn't trusted. One of my favorites was when he said that the coalition " has never seen a mirror that they didn't like", following the dumping of turnbull. Yet, he lost an unlosable election.

This country is lacking true leadership on all sides and this is making Pauline, Barnaby and others get unnecessary media attention.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Certainly the era of the charismatic Leader has long gone.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
ScoMo has just stubbed his toe again. He boldly said that there were no ineligible bodies given grants in Bridget McKenzie's gratuitous hand outs.
Wrong! . . the Auditor General has found that 43 percent of the handouts were to ineligible groups.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
ScoMo has just stubbed his toe again. He boldly said that there were no ineligible bodies given grants in Bridget McKenzie's gratuitous hand outs.
Wrong! . . the Auditor General has found that 43 percent of the handouts were to ineligible groups.
Valvegear
The "sports rorts" thing is blowing over despite the best efforts of the ALP and the Greens... MacKenzie went, end-of-story.

Meanwhile Labor is preparing to implode into a self-immolation pyre yet again with questions about the right-wing "Otis Group" lingering over Albo's leadership. From News.com.au:

Channel Ten reprorted on Wednesday a group of MPs – nicknamed the Otis group after a Canberra restaurant they dined together at - reportedly wanted the party to take a softer stance on coal. Shadow Resources Minister Joel Fitzgibbon and senior Labor Senator Don Farrell are reportedly members of the group. Mr Kroger, who was formally Victorian Liberal party president, said if Labor Leader Anthony Albanese does not change his party's emission reduction target, the party will fail to win back blue-collar support. "The meeting says to the voting public, Albanese might be hard left, but we have a very large block of people in our ranks...who are going to stand up for traditional Australian communities".

Albo has been refusing to answer questions about the Otis group even though they supposedly represent almost half of the parliamentary Labor Party. Who can blame them, have an election to win, time is already ticking down till the next one and they want to be prepared with an agenda that will turn around the hatred that blue-collar Australians expressed at the last election for them. And there's rumours that a change in leadership might result in (gasp!) a pro-coal stance emerging in the ALP... that will put a firm line between the ALP and the radical Greens once-and-for-all.
  ANR Deputy Commissioner

Sounds like yet another gathering of faceless men....

I reckon the sports rorts thing will get so toxic, that it will either take down the coalition leadership, or perhaps take us to an early election. The faceless men are sniffing blood.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

ScoMo has just stubbed his toe again. He boldly said that there were no ineligible bodies given grants in Bridget McKenzie's gratuitous hand outs.
Wrong! . . the Auditor General has found that 43 percent of the handouts were to ineligible groups.
The "sports rorts" thing is blowing over despite the best efforts of the ALP and the Greens... MacKenzie went, end-of-story.

Meanwhile Labor is preparing to implode into a self-immolation pyre yet again with questions about the right-wing "Otis Group" lingering over Albo's leadership. From News.com.au:

Channel Ten reprorted on Wednesday a group of MPs – nicknamed the Otis group after a Canberra restaurant they dined together at - reportedly wanted the party to take a softer stance on coal. Shadow Resources Minister Joel Fitzgibbon and senior Labor Senator Don Farrell are reportedly members of the group. Mr Kroger, who was formally Victorian Liberal party president, said if Labor Leader Anthony Albanese does not change his party's emission reduction target, the party will fail to win back blue-collar support. "The meeting says to the voting public, Albanese might be hard left, but we have a very large block of people in our ranks...who are going to stand up for traditional Australian communities".

Albo has been refusing to answer questions about the Otis group even though they supposedly represent almost half of the parliamentary Labor Party. Who can blame them, have an election to win, time is already ticking down till the next one and they want to be prepared with an agenda that will turn around the hatred that blue-collar Australians expressed at the last election for them. And there's rumours that a change in leadership might result in (gasp!) a pro-coal stance emerging in the ALP... that will put a firm line between the ALP and the radical Greens once-and-for-all.
don_dunstan
Your dreaming Don. Channel 10 as a reliable news source?
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
This so called "Otis Group" was nothing special, Dennis Shanahan of the Australian was on 2GB this morning, he said they were a group of about 20 who met in there, they are trying to get Albanese to go more to the right of the ALP than where he currently is.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Your dreaming Don. Channel 10 as a reliable news source?
nswtrains
Just because it's Channel 10 doesn't mean it's automatically wrong. If you had actually seen the news story on TV as I did you would have seen the various MP's going into the up-market Canberra restaurant for the meeting and being quizzed by the journalist as to what they were doing there... and they were all very cagey about what was actually going on.

I have no doubt that they'll knife Albo if they deem it necessary - they don't want a repeat of last years unmitigated disaster, losing the 'un-losable' election - and who can blame them? If they lose again in 2022 it will extend their term to almost thirteen years in opposition and they risk sliding into complete irrelevancy. They can't afford that risk, Albo needs to distinguish himself from the loony green left and he needs to do it urgently.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The LNP is the only thing standing between us and a socialist hell... Sky News:

Former Gillard political advisor John McTeran says there is a danger a ‘Green New Deal’ is “bringing in socialism and failed ideas of a socialist economy through the back door”.

A ‘Green New Deal’ aims to comprehensively tackle the issue of climate change, and has picked up support across the globe, but Mr McTeran says it is “like a sacred cow, nobody can attack it”.

Mr McTeran told Sky News host Peta Credlin there are two streams of thought on a ‘Green New Deal’; one which holds that it can “improve the … capitalist economy we have”.

On the other hand, the far left has “always wanted to replace capitalism”.

He said members of left-wing political movements across the world have “failed with a socialist economy wherever they produce it,” but are now trying to use a ‘Green New Deal’ as a “trojan horse”.


C'mon pink-tinged Railpagers, tell us that he's wrong...
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

The LNP is the only thing standing between us and a socialist hell... Sky News:

Former Gillard political advisor John McTeran says there is a danger a ‘Green New Deal’ is “bringing in socialism and failed ideas of a socialist economy through the back door”.

A ‘Green New Deal’ aims to comprehensively tackle the issue of climate change, and has picked up support across the globe, but Mr McTeran says it is “like a sacred cow, nobody can attack it”.

Mr McTeran told Sky News host Peta Credlin there are two streams of thought on a ‘Green New Deal’; one which holds that it can “improve the … capitalist economy we have”.

On the other hand, the far left has “always wanted to replace capitalism”.

He said members of left-wing political movements across the world have “failed with a socialist economy wherever they produce it,” but are now trying to use a ‘Green New Deal’ as a “trojan horse”.


C'mon pink-tinged Railpagers, tell us that he's wrong...
don_dunstan
What drugs are these people on. As for Sky, well it seems to be a haven for pedo supporters.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Exchange Holden for ScoMo and you have the real story.
nswtrains
The joke is that even post-manufacturing Holden still had a better rep than ScoMo.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Some light and amusing reading.

https://mobile.twitter.com/scottyfrommktg?lang=en
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
What drugs are these people on. As for Sky, well it seems to be a haven for pedo supporters.
nswtrains
So a former Gillard adviser doesn't know what he's talking about when he says that the left is planning a "New Green Deal" as a backdoor for acquiring private property and mandating behaviours?

What are YOU smoking?

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