Questions that you've always been too embarrassed to ask

 
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Second question, also not that embarrassing, but why doesnt intermediate intermodal work on the Sydney-Brisbane corridor?  Trucks are competitive but has anyone had a look at say Coffs or something for an intermodal?  I dont see any intermodalitis in this corridor and am wondering why...

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  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Not really an embarrassing question but a small one. What was the first diesel locomotive to travel east to west all the way?  Sydney to Perth or vv.
james.au
Assuming you mean east to west powering a train on the standard gauge?  Have to be after the Sydney Broken Hill South Australia standard gauge opened with the Broken Hill ceremony 29 November 1969. Melbourne Adelaide standard gauge was 1995 and Adelaide Port Pirie standard gauge was 1982.

If including gauge conversions and hauled not powering a train to Perth, look up the first WA diesel built on the east coast and railed to Perth. Some English Electric diesels built at Rocklea Brisbane went by ship to WA.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Probably a CL class (CL 1 ?) which was new at the time of the Peterborough standardisation. ???

CR intended to run the inaugural Indian Pacific with a single ~new CL but 'in view of the exceptional locomotive power allocated to the train by the NSWGR and SAR' it was decided that the train be hauled by a CL and two GMs over the TAR.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

The first loco to run east to west (or vv) on a single train would not have happened until there was through running agreements in place with NSW.  When did a single (or two) loco begin running through Broken Hill to Sydney?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Even today (2020) do Indian Pacific engines work through from Sydney to Perth and vv or is there normally an engine change in Adelaide?
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
The first loco to run east to west (or vv) on a single train would not have happened until there was through running agreements in place with NSW.  When did a single (or two) loco begin running through Broken Hill to Sydney?
duttonbay
Yes, I agree and that is why I suspect it was a standard gauge loco on delivery to WA. They had through running agreements as they were specific for the delivery, rather than general agreements such as a NSW loco working into Port Pirie or a Comm Rail unit working into Perth,on a regular daily arrangement.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Last time I rode the IP it was eastbound. One NR hauled it from Perth to Adelaide, then the same NR continued to Sydney, aided by a DL. Now I think the second loco is an 81, but will stand correcting.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
The first loco to run east to west (or vv) on a single train would not have happened until there was through running agreements in place with NSW.  When did a single (or two) loco begin running through Broken Hill to Sydney?
Yes, I agree and that is why I suspect it was a standard gauge loco on delivery to WA. They had through running agreements as they were specific for the delivery, rather than general agreements such as a NSW loco working into Port Pirie or a Comm Rail unit working into Perth,on a regular daily arrangement.
petan
The WAGR L class were all delivered (around 1967 - 1969 if VigSig is correct) all (?) prior to the through Sydney - Perth SG. I think (?) that they were hauled through Victoria and IIRC they were hauled dead across the TAR. Open to correction as always.

I was, initially, inclined to think that it was perhaps CL 1 that ran the first entire Sydney - Perth journey under power albeit with a short stopover at Port Augusta before taking over the inaugural westbound Indian Pacific but on reflection see that this would only have been to Kalgoorlie where WAGR power took over.

So my short answer is, like Sergeant Schultz, 'I know nothing' but it may well have been somewhat more recent.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Last time I rode the IP it was eastbound. One NR hauled it from Perth to Adelaide, then the same NR continued to Sydney, aided by a DL. Now I think the second loco is an 81, but will stand correcting.
Valvegear
Thanks Valvegear.
The DLs were a pretty much 'low profile' locomotive compared to just about everything else.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Last time I rode the IP it was eastbound. One NR hauled it from Perth to Adelaide, then the same NR continued to Sydney, aided by a DL. Now I think the second loco is an 81, but will stand correcting.
Thanks Valvegear.
The DLs were a pretty much 'low profile' locomotive compared to just about everything else.
YM-Mundrabilla
I saw it a few weeks back with the second loco being an AN, so it would seem that there are multiple options which can do that job.
  n459L1150 Train Controller

Location: at sunbury on a V/line service into melbourne, waiting for thousands of impatient people to get on
Is a Train Pilot like a Harbour Pilot? who are they employed by?

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