Yeah, simply cancelling the train would be fair easier.
Future of Overland train service in doubt
justapassenger
Minister for Railways
wobert
Chief Commissioner
Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Only fit about 5 or 6 in there with the distance rules, not that it'll worry the locals to much.NB: If you are in 'self-isolation' they'll send the police around to your house to make sure you are home at random intervals - so it's not an option.wobert should be good at this, he has been self isolating himself in the Netherby Pub for weeks at a time for yearscoppers even check on him to make sure he hasn't wondered off
BigShunter.
Funny thing out there, over the last few years with kids growing up, less little tackers for the parents to deal with , a bit more spare time, a few more a going more often. Plus blokes and few women come from near on Rainbow and Jeparit in the other direction.
Hey 'Shunter, you been over to the Dynon thread that Neils been writing, well worth a read.
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
The overland may be the only transport running after this pandemic as the airlines will be shot.
RTT_Rules
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Dubai UAE
The other two will then likely be cancelled until further notice, like the airlines and like the airlines the staff stood down until further notice.not for very much longer mate, The Overland well maybe the only train they will have left after Tuesday.Difference is IP and GHAN cover their operating costs from the revenue collected from selling seats, The Overland doesn't. No subsidy, no Overland regardless of what is happening elsewhere in the business even if the business was to close.I would now be looking at the coming current demise of The Ghan and Indian Pacific giving the current situation, if I were GSR (or whoever) now is the time for the Overland could be their only train left to operate.Interesting point.
The Overland unlikely will not survive until its final run if indeed it gets to run the next departure from Adelaide which seems unlikely.
Unfortunately the Overland will likely slip quickly and quietly into the night with no fanfare, no send off and no last hurrah! I think COVID-19 has basically been the trigger for this train to be permanently cancelled by stealth as the state and fed govts have bigger fish to fry as do most of the public. By the time this is all over, reviving the Overland will equivalent to reviving the Murrarylander, nice to have, but we don't need it right now!
I'm hoping and this is a wish, that perhaps when this is all over, JB (GSR) promote one final run of the Overland for which the ticket sales are such that the one off train is profitable in its own right.
RTT_Rules
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Dubai UAE
The overland may be the only transport running after this pandemic as the airlines will be shot.
The airlines will be back as soon as the bug is dead and returning to +80% within a few months on core previously most profitable routes! Tourist routes will take longer as people will not have money nor holidays left to use.
greasyrhys
Chief Commissioner
Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Yesterday could well be the last time it runs, from today all indian pacific, ghan & Overland services are suspended until May 31. On the jbr website
justapassenger
Minister for Railways
An update on the SA border restrictions. The ABC report said nothing about rail, but the InDaily report says the interstate rail terminal will have a SAPOL checkpoint in place by 4pm Tuesday (presumably only manned for train arrivals) and people arriving will be required to self isolate.
Hopefully they will also be checking temperatures and putting people with an elevated temperature under a government supervised isolation (perhaps using some of the accomodation places that are currently experiencing low occupancy) until they return at least two negative tests for COVID-19.
It looks like Journey Beyond have decided they will not run the Monday/Tuesday service. I'm not surprised, they probably couldn't get enough staff to agree to spend 11 hours sealed in a steel petri dish.
The airlines will be reconstituted and will return to being profitable, but the Overland will remain dead.
Hopefully they will also be checking temperatures and putting people with an elevated temperature under a government supervised isolation (perhaps using some of the accomodation places that are currently experiencing low occupancy) until they return at least two negative tests for COVID-19.
It looks like Journey Beyond have decided they will not run the Monday/Tuesday service. I'm not surprised, they probably couldn't get enough staff to agree to spend 11 hours sealed in a steel petri dish.
The overland may be the only transport running after this pandemic as the airlines will be shot.LOL.
The airlines will be reconstituted and will return to being profitable, but the Overland will remain dead.
Jack Le Lievre
Assistant Commissioner
Location: Moolap Station, Vic
don_dunstan
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: Adelaide proud
Here is the link to Journey Beyond Rail.I'm confused - the website is still taking bookings for the last three return Overland trains but the press release said unequivocally that all services were cancelled.
https://journeybeyondrail.com.au/covid-19-update/
don_dunstan
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: Adelaide proud
It seems at this stage that the last regular Overland train service ran on 21/3/2020 after some 140 years of service; the actual date has already passed us by.
Vale The Overland.
Vale The Overland.
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
It looks like Journey Beyond have decided they will not run the Monday/Tuesday service. I'm not surprised, they probably couldn't get enough staff to agree to spend 11 hours sealed in a steel petri dish.
As of yesterday the staff had no qualms and were looking forward to running the last three return trains. Nice to know there are still a handful of rational people left in the world.
lkernan
Deputy Commissioner
Location: Melbourne
Has Virgin managed that at all since the Virgin Blue days?
The airlines will be reconstituted and will return to being profitable, but the Overland will remain dead.
Aaron
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: University of Adelaide SA
So I was right, the Overland is such a necessary form of transport that forget being full, the final ‘service’ didn’t even run.
don_dunstan
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: Adelaide proud
Off to Sims with it...
Aaron
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: University of Adelaide SA
GSR once allowed for longer overland services at certain times of the year. They have not been answering the market demand of the changing patterns of travellers. They have done the same to the IP between Adelaide and Sydney.GSR could still allow for longer services if viable, but adding length to a train which isn't already fully subscribed is just to spend money for no return.
They have not been answering market demand because there is no market, forget the market's demands, no market makes no demands.
Honestly, you rode the Overland just recently, but honestly, if you didn't think that might have been your last opportunity to likely ever use the 'service' again would you have made that trip? I note that it was one way, how did you get to Adelaide, and why didn't you rail it both ways?
Aaron
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: University of Adelaide SA
I really want to agree with you, but I am wondering if rationality here isn't being confused with a brave face. I have a mate that's a steward for Emirates, he was happy to continue flying, but he says he is infinitely happier to be grounded in Dubai than to be flying right now, even on only a partial wage in a very expensive city.It looks like Journey Beyond have decided they will not run the Monday/Tuesday service. I'm not surprised, they probably couldn't get enough staff to agree to spend 11 hours sealed in a steel petri dish.
As of yesterday the staff had no qualms and were looking forward to running the last three return trains. Nice to know there are still a handful of rational people left in the world.
wobert
Chief Commissioner
Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Weren't you implying in another thread that we were overreacting.
Aaron
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: University of Adelaide SA
I don’t think I implied it, I pretty much stated it. Not sure I am saying much different here.
COVID-19 is undoubtably bad, and I think the shutdown is still an overreaction at this point, but I also think there are a lot of people that are worried, but they still turn up to work etc because the alternative is to do not much at all.
COVID-19 is undoubtably bad, and I think the shutdown is still an overreaction at this point, but I also think there are a lot of people that are worried, but they still turn up to work etc because the alternative is to do not much at all.
nswtrains
Chief Commissioner
I don’t think I implied it, I pretty much stated it. Not sure I am saying much different here.Who cares what you think about COVID-19! Let the experts guide us.
COVID-19 is undoubtably bad, and I think the shutdown is still an overreaction at this point, but I also think there are a lot of people that are worried, but they still turn up to work etc because the alternative is to do not much at all.
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
ADELAIDE railway station for interstate services will have a checkpoint setup just like theb12 roads will have.
You don’t need a checkpoint if there aren’t trains.
You don’t need a checkpoint if there aren’t trains.
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
Train rumoured to be returning on 1 June.
Dangersdan707
Chief Commissioner
Location: On a Thing with Internet
Unless its climate changeI don’t think I implied it, I pretty much stated it. Not sure I am saying much different here.Who cares what you think about COVID-19! Let the experts guide us.
COVID-19 is undoubtably bad, and I think the shutdown is still an overreaction at this point, but I also think there are a lot of people that are worried, but they still turn up to work etc because the alternative is to do not much at all.
stooge spark
Chief Train Controller
Location: My House
That was the whimpiest whimper to ever whimper.
Poor bastard didn't even get to have a proper last service.
Poor bastard didn't even get to have a proper last service.
Valvegear
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Norda Fittazroy
That was the whimpiest whimper to ever whimper.After what had become of it since its glory days, I think it's somehow appropriate that it just fades away.
Poor bastard didn't even get to have a proper last service.
wobert
Chief Commissioner
Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Well actually, in all fairness to Aaron, I did ask.I don’t think I implied it, I pretty much stated it. Not sure I am saying much different here.Who cares what you think about COVID-19! Let the experts guide us.
COVID-19 is undoubtably bad, and I think the shutdown is still an overreaction at this point, but I also think there are a lot of people that are worried, but they still turn up to work etc because the alternative is to do not much at all.
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