Hi all,

Like a many others I have had extra time on my hands over the past few weeks and have discovered the Gheringhap Loop reports for the first time - Riveting stuff and well done to Graham for capturing this.

However it's left me with a few questions to do with reporting numbers - particularly for PN Grain's.

For instance, Sunday 12th of April saw (by my interpretation) 5 different trains with codes QK or KQ indicating (NW VIC - Moree & vice versa). Furthermore on Monday 13th April there were two trains with the codes KG (NW VIC - Parkes) according to the ARTC via Wikipedia.


To make it easy as a reference point: http://ghaploop.railpage.org.au/thweeks.html

My Questions are as follows:

1) My stab in the dark is that these trains are bringing grain from NSW to Geelong Port and using Gheringhap to refuel, is that right?
2) I found a video on YouTube indicating these trains are heading for the wheatbelt in NW VIC, but why would a train run between two producing regions?

3) If my first guess is a correct interpretation, the Train Reporting Numbers are vague for the purposes of working out the end destination. For instance by my interpretation Moree could mean anywhere on the Main North/ Mungindi Line after the split at Maitland, inclusive of the Moree line. Does anyone know where these grains typically terminate at the Northern end?  



Admin: Feel free to move relevant section if needed, from what I could the Gheringhap thread was for Graham to post.


Cheers!

Hi all,

Like a many others I have had extra time on my hands over the past few weeks and have discovered the Gheringhap Loop reports for the first time - Riveting stuff and well done to Graham for capturing this.

However it's left me with a few questions to do with reporting numbers - particularly for PN Grain's.

For instance, Sunday 12th of April saw (by my interpretation) 5 different trains with codes QK or KQ indicating (NW VIC - Moree & vice versa). Furthermore on Monday 13th April there were two trains with the codes KG (NW VIC - Parkes) according to the ARTC via Wikipedia.


To make it easy as a reference point: http://ghaploop.railpage.org.au/thweeks.html

My Questions are as follows:

1) My stab in the dark is that these trains are bringing grain from NSW to Geelong Port and using Gheringhap to refuel, is that right?
2) I found a video on YouTube indicating these trains are heading for the wheatbelt in NW VIC, but why would a train run between two producing regions?

3) If my first guess is a correct interpretation, the Train Reporting Numbers are vague for the purposes of working out the end destination. For instance by my interpretation Moree could mean anywhere on the Main North/ Mungindi Line after the split at Maitland, inclusive of the Moree line. Does anyone know where these grains typically terminate at the Northern end?  



Admin: Feel free to move relevant section if needed, from what I could the Gheringhap thread was for Graham to post.


Cheers!

Your stab in the dark is incorrect. The trains are going loaded from silos in NW Victoria to areas in NSW that lack certain types/quality of grain due to drought conditions.

edit: For example, 6KQ5 that is currently going through Broadmeadows loaded in Murtoa and is now headed to Werris Creek.

Your stab in the dark is incorrect. The trains are going loaded from silos in NW Victoria to areas in NSW that lack certain types/quality of grain due to drought conditions.

edit: For example, 6KQ5 that is currently going through Broadmeadows loaded in Murtoa and is now headed to Werris Creek.

Thanks mate! That makes sense and is helpful.

One further question:

How were you able to determine that Murtoa/ Werris Creek was the origin/destination and is this information publicly available?

I've had a snoop around the ARTC website, it's definitely not obvious if it is available.


Thanks again!

How were you able to determine that Murtoa/ Werris Creek was the origin/destination and is this information publicly available?

I'm able to access train details via my employer. I don't think it's readily available to the public.

Your stab in the dark is incorrect. The trains are going loaded from silos in NW Victoria to areas in NSW that lack certain types/quality of grain due to drought conditions.

edit: For example, 6KQ5 that is currently going through Broadmeadows loaded in Murtoa and is now headed to Werris Creek.

Thanks mate! That makes sense and is helpful.

One further question:

How were you able to determine that Murtoa/ Werris Creek was the origin/destination and is this information publicly available?

I've had a snoop around the ARTC website, it's definitely not obvious if it is available.


Thanks again!

Simple use this thread and follow daily grain movements under :
Forums > Victoria > Grain Harvest    

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11400176-0-asc-s275.htm   (with all underlined) gives you latest page - 12 of this thread