The ongoing issues with escalators at Southern Cross

 
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Southern Cross escalators undergoing "maintenance" again this morning...
Madjikthise
If it is genuine preventative maintenance it's no bad thing. A bit of cleaning, a touch of grease here and there, just might keep the things operating reasonably.

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  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

Yeah except you don't usually do preventative maintenance when people are trying to get to work.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Yeah except you don't usually do preventative maintenance when people are trying to get to work.
"Madjikthise"
You don't usually expect to find that degree of clear thinking in our rail system either.
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

Hello All,

escalators, being moving machinery with uneven and varying impacts over a period of time, will have a limited lifetime. Southern Cross at Spencer St opened in 2006, which is 13 years ago, and doubtless the total users in that time probably number in the millions, so one should expect an increasing failure rate, and due to age, an increasing difficulty in acquiring spare parts.

Regards, Radioman.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
. . . so one should expect an increasing failure rate, and due to age, an increasing difficulty in acquiring spare parts.
"Radioman"
No. One should expect the escalators to be replaced by current models with a proven record of reliability, and readily available spares.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Here we go again.

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  northbritish Chief Train Controller

Hello All,

escalators, being moving machinery with uneven and varying impacts over a period of time, will have a limited lifetime. Southern Cross at Spencer St opened in 2006, which is 13 years ago, and doubtless the total users in that time probably number in the millions, so one should expect an increasing failure rate, and due to age, an increasing difficulty in acquiring spare parts.

Regards, Radioman.
Radioman
The escalators in my local shopping mall have been operating for well over two decades with no issues. The word "quality" comes to mind.
  mm42 Chief Train Controller

Over a 2 week period his month I travelled on hundreds of escalators in Japan, some more heavily used than at Southern Cross Station. Of all these only one was out for maintenance. Those I noticed were branded "Mitsibushi". How come the Japanese can work this out but we can't?
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Ah my friend, you highlight a very good point.

Its because in Japan they're happy to pay first world prices for first world quality. The culture of not being shamed, coupled with pride in doing something well is not to be underestimated.

We are not, and we really don't care. Its always an out the door warranty here. Sure the customer and end user care, but that's it.
Just about all of our vertical transport stuff is made in China now.
I hear there's a goods lift in a recently completed building in Melbourne where the elevator rails have a slight bend. Don't recall on what axis this bend is, but suffice to say it challenges the Big Dipper at Luna Park for ride quality .Shocked.  

Sometimes they really do mean you get what you pay for. In Australia, cheapest (or close to) will usually win. Builders are notorious for a 0 F..s given approach to price, and the resulting quality of that choice. Consultants are a bit the same. All you need to have is a compliance certificate, job done, slap it in.

At least you're not living in a crappy appartment
building slum with a cladding issue.


It's a whole other tangent to suggest as Aussies it says plenty about what we're prepared to spend, and as a result where that comes from.

It's entirely a choice.

Sh/t quality escalators are the same. Some in the Industry have the view they're like appliances. When it packs up, and we can't get parts - you pay to get it ripped out and another goes in. Guess what, the newer model from China, and they same parts supply issue as before. Don't even get me started on - No it's plant and equipment, not an effing appliance!!!

DO NOT get caught up in the deluded mindset that parts should be available, blah blah blah.
It should be the case, absolutely. But it WONT!
I've answered why back on pg1.

Regards
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Now a flood?



There is water gushing out of Platform 12 at Southern Cross.
  MetroFemme Assistant Commissioner

Has been raining for hours here near Camberwell.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Are there faulty escalators at Camberwell too?
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
Either there's 3 sets of escalators down at the Collins St end of Spenser St now for being broken or cos of Covid, but each sign has the name Honeywell on them alongside the station managment logo. Which is odd as I don't believe Honeywell has a escalator division which means part sourcing's going to be even more of an issue.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Either there's 3 sets of escalators down at the Collins St end of Spenser St now for being broken or cos of Covid, but each sign has the name Honeywell on them alongside the station managment logo. Which is odd as I don't believe Honeywell has a escalator division which means part sourcing's going to be even more of an issue.
ARodH
https://sensing.honeywell.com/home-building-automation/escalators-elevators
  jakar Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Either there's 3 sets of escalators down at the Collins St end of Spenser St now for being broken or cos of Covid, but each sign has the name Honeywell on them alongside the station managment logo. Which is odd as I don't believe Honeywell has a escalator division which means part sourcing's going to be even more of an issue.
ARodH
Honeywell were part of the consortium that built and run the station precinct and I believe they operate in a facility management / maintenance capacity there. I would be very surprised if they didn't contract out the work to a dedicated company like Schindler or Kone etc.
  Rossco T Chief Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
Either there's 3 sets of escalators down at the Collins St end of Spenser St now for being broken or cos of Covid.
ARodH
Um, if it was due to Covid-19, surely you would want to have as many escalators open as possible to maximise social distancing.  Otherwise you are just asking for more crowding on whatever access remains open.

Ross
  jakar Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Either there's 3 sets of escalators down at the Collins St end of Spenser St now for being broken or cos of Covid, but each sign has the name Honeywell on them alongside the station managment logo. Which is odd as I don't believe Honeywell has a escalator division which means part sourcing's going to be even more of an issue.
Honeywell were part of the consortium that built and run the station precinct and I believe they operate in a facility management / maintenance capacity there. I would be very surprised if they didn't contract out the work to a dedicated company like Schindler or Kone etc.
jakar
FWIW the safety barriers for the workers fixing the escalator at the Bourke St end this morning were branded with Kone.

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