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      Dreadnought Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Oooh, look! [Pointing upwards] An eagle!!
    I've been looking at Vic branch line termini for the purposes of modelling a typical generic branch line and I've seen a fair number but there are a few I haven't been able to get the layouts of.

    If anyone has anything on the layout of the stations at:
    Koondrook
    Briagalong
    Goroke
    Marnoo
    Bolangum
    Navarre
    Cohuna
    Stony Crossing
    Balranald
    Warburton
    Wedderburn
    I would be most appreciative if you could let me know either by reply or by PM.

    I have info on most of the others in some form or other, so if anyone wants info on them, let me know what you're after.

    Thanks in anticipation.
    Cheers,
    Frank S
    Posted: 07 Aug 2003 22:27

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      John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Melbourne suburbs
    I've been looking at Vic branch line termini for the purposes of modelling a typical generic branch line ...

    If anyone has anything on the layout of the stations at:
    Koondrook
    ...
    "Dreadnought"
    As Koondrook was originally part of the shire tramway and had the station in the main street, with, I think, a trailing siding to a timber mill beyond the station, it was hardly a generic terminus.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2003 00:36
      Dreadnought Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Oooh, look! [Pointing upwards] An eagle!!
    John,
    Fair comment re Koondrook but I still wanted to look at all the actual termini first.  Koondrook may not be "generic" but it is an actual station operated by the VR (even if they didn't build the line).  Katamatite was also the terminus of a shire tramway but the yard there was fairly "normal".

    I've found an entire book on the Koondrook tramway but even it does not include a layout of the yard.

    Do anyone actually have a plan of the Koondrook layout or any of the others in the list??

    Cheers,
    Frank S
    Posted: 08 Aug 2003 09:46
      DavidB Moderator

    Location: Canberra
    I have most of them in the Weston Langford books. I could scan them over the weekend.

    Cheers
    David
    Posted: 08 Aug 2003 09:53
      Dreadnought Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Oooh, look! [Pointing upwards] An eagle!!
    David,
    Many thanks for that!! I've only seen (but don't own) two of Weston's books - Midland/North and the North Eastern.

    I'm finding that it's bloody near impossible to find copies of those now.  IF The swap meet might be the only hope.

    I have a number of the station layouts from copies of their water supply plans from the 1930s but the ones I listed were not among them.

    If there might be any info you need that I might have, let me know.

    Cheers,
    Frank S
    Posted: 08 Aug 2003 10:30
      DavidB Moderator

    Location: Canberra
    David,
    Many thanks for that!! I've only seen (but don't own) two of Weston's books - Midland/North and the North Eastern.
    "Dreadnought"

    They are two of the three I don't have! I have South Western, Western, North Western, Eastern/South Eastern and Suburban Part 1.

    Cheers
    David
    Posted: 08 Aug 2003 10:38
      Iain Chief Commissioner

    Location: Concord, NSW
    The State Library of Victoria catalouge says they have the Wes Langford books . Of course I havent checked this out (living in Sydney makes it hard) to see whether it is true but the catalouge usually is accurate. As well they have the Jack McLean signal diagrams on microfiche available. A trip to the library may well be in order!

    This was on sale a few years ago and I bought a set, the difficulty being finding a reader printer...

    It seems that it would be usefull to list all the Langford books so we know what was published as I thought there were only two published.

    I guess I'll have to try and get them from a library and then visit my friendly photocopier, not that I would be intending to break any copyright laws.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2003 11:08
      DavidB Moderator

    Location: Canberra
    I think copying a selection of diagrams for the purpose of research would be very easy to prove in this case. :)

    Another interesting point is that VR loved its double slips. A "typical" VR branch line terminus could easily have 2 or 3 of them.

    Cheers
    David
    Posted: 09 Aug 2003 15:20
      duttonbay Minister for Railways

    I've been looking at Vic branch line termini for the purposes of modelling a typical generic branch line and I've seen a fair number but there are a few I haven't been able to get the layouts of.

    If anyone has anything on the layout of the stations at:
     Koondrook Briagalong Goroke Marnoo Bolangum Navarre
     Cohuna Stony Crossing Balranald Warburton Wedderburn
    I would be most appreciative if you could let me know either by reply or by PM.


    I have (I think) the full set of Weston Langford diagrams.
    Briagalong is in the Eastern book.
    Warburton is in Suburban Part 1.
    Navarre and Bolangum are missing, as is Marnoo (although not a terminus) from the Western District book.
    Goroke isn't a terminus, but it and the terminus of Carpolac are in the Western book.
    Cohuna, Wedderburn, Stony Crossing, Koondrook, Balranald are in the North Western book.

    If you are interested in any of these let me know.  Remember of course that Weston's drawings were sketches, not to scale.  

    Of those found, Briagalong (2) Balranald (1) and Warburton (1) had double slips. Like Koondrook, Stony Crossing was atypical too.  It had a wye.
    Posted: 10 Aug 2003 14:07
      Sirion Station Staff

    Location: N.E. Victoria
    If you go to Koondrook, on the northern side of the still existing railway sheds, there is a sunken type round sitting area with a pergola over the top.  That is where the turntable used to be.

    The river has changed dramatically on that bend from when it was used as a shipping and railway.  The wharf used to be right up next to the rail sheds.  There is still some of the remains of the derricks to lift goods from the paddle steamers.  With the barrages on the Murray reducing the flow the bend at Koondrook has silted up and growing trees to length of about 40 metres from the previous river bank and wharf.
    Posted: 13 Aug 2003 09:41
      B 67 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Central Gippsland
    Bolangum appears in the August Newsrail for those who don't already have it.
    Posted: 13 Aug 2003 20:10
      DavidB Moderator

    Location: Canberra
    Bolangum appears in the August Newsrail for those who don't already have it.
    "B 67"

    Bolangum isn't in any of the Wes Langford books. Is there a chance of somebody "virtually lending" me a copy of Newsrail? Wink

    Cheers
    David
    Posted: 14 Aug 2003 10:19
      locos315 Beginner

    I have most of them in the Weston Langford books. I could scan them over the weekend.

    Cheers
    David
    DavidB
    Hi David, How are you. My name is Warren. I am in the middle of doing Wedderburn yard, HO scale. Your Weston Langford book, Does it have Wedderburn in it. I have a diagram from ARHS which has been ok BUT it does show the water column and the sheep yard. Does the W/L book show any thing like that. Please email at lindsayt55@bigpond.com. Thank you David.
    Posted: 14 Apr 2020 11:52
      Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Dalby Qld
    I have most of them in the Weston Langford books. I could scan them over the weekend.

    Cheers
    David
    Hi David, How are you. My name is Warren. I am in the middle of doing Wedderburn yard, HO scale. Your Weston Langford book, Does it have Wedderburn in it. I have a diagram from ARHS which has been ok BUT it does show the water column and the sheep yard. Does the W/L book show any thing like that. Please email at lindsayt55@bigpond.com. Thank you David.
    locos315
    David's profile shows that he hasn't logged in here since 2011. Good luck getting a reply!
    Posted: 14 Apr 2020 22:23
      duttonbay Minister for Railways

    I have most of them in the Weston Langford books. I could scan them over the weekend.

    Cheers
    David
    Hi David, How are you. My name is Warren. I am in the middle of doing Wedderburn yard, HO scale. Your Weston Langford book, Does it have Wedderburn in it. I have a diagram from ARHS which has been ok BUT it does show the water column and the sheep yard. Does the W/L book show any thing like that. Please email at lindsayt55@bigpond.com. Thank you David.
    locos315
    I doubt whether David will reply. But Weston's North Western District book does include a sketch of Wedderburn. There's no water column (but I don't think he included them in any drawing) and no sheep yard. There is a stock race drawn on the track leading to the carriage bay.  I also have a dimensioned drawing of the yard which shows the distance from the first set of points to the end of track is about 18 chains - 360 metres. That's 4.1m in 1:87 - how long are you planning your layout to be? (It's a rare model which is prototypical length).
    Posted: 15 Apr 2020 16:44
      changer Station Master
    Posted: 18 Apr 2020 22:18
      steamfreak Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Wodonga, VIC
    You might find a few here https://www.victorianrailways.net/signaling/completedia/sigdialist.html
    Regards Ross
    changer
    There are also a heap of yard plans (including Koondrook) in this document:
    https://www.victorianrailways.net/infastuct/misc_plans.pdf
    Posted: 22 Jun 2020 13:50
      c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

    Location: in the cuckoos nest
    Or the whole site at

    https://www.victorianrailways.net/index.html

    and

    https://www.victorianrailways.net/infastuct/infastructhome.html

    Happy designing,

    John
    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 11:54

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