Victorian Branch Line yards

 
  Dreadnought Assistant Commissioner

Location: Oooh, look! [Pointing upwards] An eagle!!
I've been looking at Vic branch line termini for the purposes of modelling a typical generic branch line and I've seen a fair number but there are a few I haven't been able to get the layouts of.

If anyone has anything on the layout of the stations at:
Koondrook
Briagalong
Goroke
Marnoo
Bolangum
Navarre
Cohuna
Stony Crossing
Balranald
Warburton
Wedderburn
I would be most appreciative if you could let me know either by reply or by PM.

I have info on most of the others in some form or other, so if anyone wants info on them, let me know what you're after.

Thanks in anticipation.
Cheers,
Frank S

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  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
I've been looking at Vic branch line termini for the purposes of modelling a typical generic branch line ...

If anyone has anything on the layout of the stations at:
Koondrook
...
"Dreadnought"
As Koondrook was originally part of the shire tramway and had the station in the main street, with, I think, a trailing siding to a timber mill beyond the station, it was hardly a generic terminus.
  Dreadnought Assistant Commissioner

Location: Oooh, look! [Pointing upwards] An eagle!!
John,
Fair comment re Koondrook but I still wanted to look at all the actual termini first.  Koondrook may not be "generic" but it is an actual station operated by the VR (even if they didn't build the line).  Katamatite was also the terminus of a shire tramway but the yard there was fairly "normal".

I've found an entire book on the Koondrook tramway but even it does not include a layout of the yard.

Do anyone actually have a plan of the Koondrook layout or any of the others in the list??

Cheers,
Frank S
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
I have most of them in the Weston Langford books. I could scan them over the weekend.

Cheers
David
  Dreadnought Assistant Commissioner

Location: Oooh, look! [Pointing upwards] An eagle!!
David,
Many thanks for that!! I've only seen (but don't own) two of Weston's books - Midland/North and the North Eastern.

I'm finding that it's bloody near impossible to find copies of those now.  IF The swap meet might be the only hope.

I have a number of the station layouts from copies of their water supply plans from the 1930s but the ones I listed were not among them.

If there might be any info you need that I might have, let me know.

Cheers,
Frank S
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
David,
Many thanks for that!! I've only seen (but don't own) two of Weston's books - Midland/North and the North Eastern.
"Dreadnought"

They are two of the three I don't have! I have South Western, Western, North Western, Eastern/South Eastern and Suburban Part 1.

Cheers
David
  Iain Chief Commissioner

Location: Concord, NSW
The State Library of Victoria catalouge says they have the Wes Langford books . Of course I havent checked this out (living in Sydney makes it hard) to see whether it is true but the catalouge usually is accurate. As well they have the Jack McLean signal diagrams on microfiche available. A trip to the library may well be in order!

This was on sale a few years ago and I bought a set, the difficulty being finding a reader printer...

It seems that it would be usefull to list all the Langford books so we know what was published as I thought there were only two published.

I guess I'll have to try and get them from a library and then visit my friendly photocopier, not that I would be intending to break any copyright laws.
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
I think copying a selection of diagrams for the purpose of research would be very easy to prove in this case. :)

Another interesting point is that VR loved its double slips. A "typical" VR branch line terminus could easily have 2 or 3 of them.

Cheers
David
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I've been looking at Vic branch line termini for the purposes of modelling a typical generic branch line and I've seen a fair number but there are a few I haven't been able to get the layouts of.

If anyone has anything on the layout of the stations at:
 Koondrook Briagalong Goroke Marnoo Bolangum Navarre
 Cohuna Stony Crossing Balranald Warburton Wedderburn
I would be most appreciative if you could let me know either by reply or by PM.


I have (I think) the full set of Weston Langford diagrams.
Briagalong is in the Eastern book.
Warburton is in Suburban Part 1.
Navarre and Bolangum are missing, as is Marnoo (although not a terminus) from the Western District book.
Goroke isn't a terminus, but it and the terminus of Carpolac are in the Western book.
Cohuna, Wedderburn, Stony Crossing, Koondrook, Balranald are in the North Western book.

If you are interested in any of these let me know.  Remember of course that Weston's drawings were sketches, not to scale.  

Of those found, Briagalong (2) Balranald (1) and Warburton (1) had double slips. Like Koondrook, Stony Crossing was atypical too.  It had a wye.
  Sirion Station Staff

Location: N.E. Victoria
If you go to Koondrook, on the northern side of the still existing railway sheds, there is a sunken type round sitting area with a pergola over the top.  That is where the turntable used to be.

The river has changed dramatically on that bend from when it was used as a shipping and railway.  The wharf used to be right up next to the rail sheds.  There is still some of the remains of the derricks to lift goods from the paddle steamers.  With the barrages on the Murray reducing the flow the bend at Koondrook has silted up and growing trees to length of about 40 metres from the previous river bank and wharf.
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
Bolangum appears in the August Newsrail for those who don't already have it.
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
Bolangum appears in the August Newsrail for those who don't already have it.
"B 67"

Bolangum isn't in any of the Wes Langford books. Is there a chance of somebody "virtually lending" me a copy of Newsrail? Wink

Cheers
David
  locos315 Beginner

I have most of them in the Weston Langford books. I could scan them over the weekend.

Cheers
David
DavidB
Hi David, How are you. My name is Warren. I am in the middle of doing Wedderburn yard, HO scale. Your Weston Langford book, Does it have Wedderburn in it. I have a diagram from ARHS which has been ok BUT it does show the water column and the sheep yard. Does the W/L book show any thing like that. Please email at lindsayt55@bigpond.com. Thank you David.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
I have most of them in the Weston Langford books. I could scan them over the weekend.

Cheers
David
Hi David, How are you. My name is Warren. I am in the middle of doing Wedderburn yard, HO scale. Your Weston Langford book, Does it have Wedderburn in it. I have a diagram from ARHS which has been ok BUT it does show the water column and the sheep yard. Does the W/L book show any thing like that. Please email at lindsayt55@bigpond.com. Thank you David.
locos315
David's profile shows that he hasn't logged in here since 2011. Good luck getting a reply!
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I have most of them in the Weston Langford books. I could scan them over the weekend.

Cheers
David
Hi David, How are you. My name is Warren. I am in the middle of doing Wedderburn yard, HO scale. Your Weston Langford book, Does it have Wedderburn in it. I have a diagram from ARHS which has been ok BUT it does show the water column and the sheep yard. Does the W/L book show any thing like that. Please email at lindsayt55@bigpond.com. Thank you David.
locos315
I doubt whether David will reply. But Weston's North Western District book does include a sketch of Wedderburn. There's no water column (but I don't think he included them in any drawing) and no sheep yard. There is a stock race drawn on the track leading to the carriage bay.  I also have a dimensioned drawing of the yard which shows the distance from the first set of points to the end of track is about 18 chains - 360 metres. That's 4.1m in 1:87 - how long are you planning your layout to be? (It's a rare model which is prototypical length).
  changer Station Master
  steamfreak Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wodonga, VIC
You might find a few here https://www.victorianrailways.net/signaling/completedia/sigdialist.html
Regards Ross
changer
There are also a heap of yard plans (including Koondrook) in this document:
https://www.victorianrailways.net/infastuct/misc_plans.pdf
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Or the whole site at

https://www.victorianrailways.net/index.html

and

https://www.victorianrailways.net/infastuct/infastructhome.html

Happy designing,

John

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