Install a “Doors Closing, Please Stand Clear” announcement on Melbourne’s trains and trams

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 02 Jul 2020 11:35
  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Whenever I catch a tram in Melbourne there is already enough noise when you are travelling why would anyone want more noise it is already overwhelming.

Trains how is this necessary?

Install a “Doors Closing, Please Stand Clear” announcement on Melbourne’s trains and trams

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I am the author of this petition...thank you so much for sharing! We need as many people on board as possible (excuse the pun) to make this much needed improvement to our system!
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Yet more noise pollution.
How about 'mind the gap' when the doors open as well?
Something else to maintain (they cannot maintain what they already have .......)
Based on the COVID excuses they would need it in 99 languages to appease the do gooders and two bob lawyers.
A solution looking for a problem.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

You might as well include "passengers with difficulties comprehending warning signs and tones must not travel without the accompany of a guardian" if this hasn't yet been done.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
There are announcements for

Each stop
Approaching each stop
Odd stupid announcements from the control centre

It is already crowded with needless announcements another is not required.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Having too many long-winded announcements make it more likely that people will ignore all of them, maybe even going so far as wearing noise cancelling headphones on the.

Keep announcements to the essentials, and keep them concise. The necessary ones in normal circumstances are just:
"bing bong Next stop Nowheresville" - straight after departing a station if on a stopping train, two stations before if it's an extended express run
"bing bong Arriving Nowheresville" perhaps with "change for local buses" or "change for XYZ line" - 20 seconds before arriving
"bing bong Doors closing" - played only from speakers at the doors which point outwards, not throughout the whole train

Anything else should have a different tone, and should be automatically deleted from the system at the end of the day unless authorised by management for use the following day.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I am the author of this petition...thank you so much for sharing! We need as many people on board as possible (excuse the pun) to make this much needed improvement to our system!
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  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Internationally everyone knows whatever language they speak a series of dings means the doors are about to close, watch out or you will be cut in half or have your water cut off.  For the deaf doesnt matter how an audible warning is given they won t notice, that is why the accompanying flashing light.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

The Comeng trams also have mat switches preventing doors from closing when there are people standing on stepwell.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
What problem are we trying to solve ?
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

Seems as though some people need to be told how to do every single thing in their life no matter how simple or logical.
Also, selfish people who believe public transport is only there for them and nobody else, and ferals, are the ones causing delays by holding the doors. This will not fix the problem.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
We've had an automated "stand clear" message on the platforms since forever (as an 80s kid I distinctly remember the very British-sounding female voiceover at Flinders Street), the catch is, they're only used when a train is about to start its trip from its terminus, not at intermediate stations.

For example, the Lilydale/Belgrave shuttles at Ringwood will get the "stand clear" announcement, but not the through services.
  safeworking Station Master

Location: Bungendore
We've had an automated "stand clear" message on the platforms since forever (as an 80s kid I distinctly remember the very British-sounding female voiceover at Flinders Street), the catch is, they're only used when a train is about to start its trip from its terminus, not at intermediate stations.

For example, the Lilydale/Belgrave shuttles at Ringwood will get the "stand clear" announcement, but not the through services.
Heihachi_73
When we (ARHS - ACT) were running Phantom of the Opera trains in the early 90s, I remember the Spencer Street announcement;'The train standing on Platform 1 is departing for Canberra. Please stand clear.'  We really knew we had been accepted by railway professionals. The travelling public probably wondered what was going on.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

In early this century the message following "stand clear" on country platforms at SSS was "Stand well back from the train please", but diesel trains start slower than any electrics.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

On the X’Trapolis, not sure about the others, the doors don’t open automatically. You push the door button when it is green. If a train has been standing at the platform for more than a minute, any open door will close, with the appropriate alarm. The button remains green and the closing operation can be interrupted by pressing the button. When the train is departing the button is deactivated (red) when the doors close. Trains can stand at a platform for 5 mins or more, eg Flinders Street or a terminus, and a door open and close several times. This would make such an announcement rather annoying for those who boarded when the train stopped and up to 3 doors (2 for the Siemens) opening and closing at different times prior to departure.

One would assume that anyone holding a door open was aware that it was closing.

PS: This may have something to do with the terminus departure announcement mentioned above by Heihachi_73
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
So this suggestion for additional 'nanny state' noise pollution, having nothing to do with regional services should be moved to the Melbourne Suburban thread.

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-f22.htm

Mike.

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