In your earlier post you mention that electrification to Bomaderry could mean doing away with the crews from Kiama South, where do you think the crews are based, and why would you believe they are based at Kiama or Bomaderry? Have you thought that the services are change over working with Wollongong crews that take the sparks to Kiama, and then change over with the train from Bomaderry and they do a trip down there and back and do the same on return. Another aspect is that minor maintenance servicing is carried out at Wollongong as well.So the same crew operates the trip between Wollongong and Bomaderry? I thought it would have been two separate crews given the two different traction types (electric and diesel), that clears some things up, if it's truly as simple as you and RTT say it is then there is probably no point in electrifying the line just yet. I didn't know that minor maintenance service was carried out in Wollongong either, how often does the Endeavour need to run to Everleigh?
The aspect of skipping stations between Dapto and Kiama, saves how many minutes? the other aspect is what point in skipping them and have another service that stops at them, you are pretty much advocating something for the Illa line that you opposed on the Short North.
No one that I know of that talks about the winding track south of Waterfall are all in favour of their elimination, the best part is that the new sections could very well be carried out without any interuption to existing services.
Skipping stops between Wollongong and Kiama would speed up the express service to Sydney, by how much I'm not sure though, the new intercity fleet is fitted out for longer journeys and wouldn't fit it becoming a local train, D-sets should run Central, Sydenham, Wolli, Sutherland, Helensburgh, Thirroul, Wollongong, Dapto, Oak Flats, Kiama, and the T-sets (or whatever suburban stock) should provide frequent local shuttles between Stanwell Park-Port Kembla, and Kiama-Wollongong.
I'm a little confused what you thought I opposed on the Short North (Newcastle), I wanted frequent local shuttle stopping all stops Fassi-Newy with additonal intermediate stops, and Sydney express services running as expresses.
I'm sure everyone is in favour of removing those bends south of Waterfall, the questions is what is the best way to do it without an expensive Thirroul-Waterfall tunnel.
Line is already simple.Like I set to a6et, if it's that simple, then there is probably no point in electrification, I just figured it would save money in the longterm no longer needing DMU's down south for a short stretch of line.
Longer spark arrives at Kiama, smaller DMU departs for Bomaderry, same in reverse.
If you spark the line, the other stations need to be all extended, which will incur the mandatory upgrade in other aspects as well as spending $50M+ on over head.
If the new trains are hy-brid's, then yes great, but that means you are buying a most costly long hybrid to spend most of its time under the wire to run just a short distance of diesel, you would need a large fleet of these just to make a 60min timetable and then you are again running long trains over a short section where you just need a small train.
This where its cheaper to have a high capacity spark do what a high capacity spark does best and a small DMU do what it does best and ask the small number of connecting customers to stretch their legs for a few minutes.
Running to Sydney once a week for a Service is not a huge drama, if you have two sets down the south, easily timetabled.
Now with all the money saved, use this money to help fund much needed upgrades to the north end of the line.
If electrification did happen, wouldn't station upgrades just be platform extensions? duplication is where the headache would come with the mandatory lifts.
If the new trains are hybrids, take advantage and run to Wollongong dock platforms, but I don't see the point in retiring Endeavours (and Xplorers) just yet when they are perfectly fine and not life expired (like the V-Sets and XPTs).
What would you say the best way to upgrade the north end is? looking at a map, the curves don't become too problematic until the Stanwell Park viaduct, I've heard the old alignment was straighter but too steep for freight trains, would it be possible to restore the old alignment for sparks and keep the current one for freight?