Transportation expert Richard Tubb explains why Burnie-Wynyard light rail won't happen

 

News article: Transportation expert Richard Tubb explains why Burnie-Wynyard light rail won't happen

Richard Tubb would absolutely love a light rail service connecting Burnie, Wynyard and communities in between.

  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Not real updated with tasmania but an endeavour set would do the job with passengers wanting to travel.  Do railway platforms still existing in tasmanian cities?

Transportation expert Richard Tubb explains why Burnie-Wynyard light rail won't happen

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  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Not real updated with tasmania but an endeavour set would do the job with passengers wanting to travel.  Do railway platforms still existing in tasmanian cities?

Transportation expert Richard Tubb explains why Burnie-Wynyard light rail won't happen
NSWGR8022
My Tasmanian rail knowledge is minimal, but I do know that an Endeavour set would need to be regauged to 1067mm! The track having been out of use for some time might need substantial repairs. In 2010 the Burnie platform was still intact, not sure about others.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
The line was originally closed as it was being undermined in parts along the beachfront.
Now there’s part of the University development in the way I believe along with parts cut closer to Wynyard,

I very much doubt you’ll see rail west of Burnie again, the council was dead set against it.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The line was originally closed as it was being undermined in parts along the beachfront.
Now there’s part of the University development in the way I believe along with parts cut closer to Wynyard,

I very much doubt you’ll see rail west of Burnie again, the council was dead set against it.
lkernan
Several sections of track have been removed In the Burnie urban area West of Burnie Yard, all level crossing protection equipment West of Burnie has been removed.

Burnie has a railway station platform and building that Is disconnected from the yard.
Cooee has a railway station platform.
Somerset has a railway station platform.
Wynyard has a railway station platform.

No doubt a very scenic coastal railway path, but the railway alignment very windy = very slow going, close exposure to the sea would make ongoing maintenance very expensive.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Used to know the area quite well. Also used to day dream of such a project back in the 90's when I was a frequent visitor of the, but realistically would be a Devonport to Wynyard to have some chance of a moderate failure of success and ironically most of the platforms are still present.

Unfortunately its a solution looking for a problem. Buses are far more effective and you won't get people out of their cars in a location where there is little traffic congestion, often windy, wet and cold. Probably best described as a $100M dollar solution to solve a $100 dollar problem.

Rail Trail would be far better solution with lower maintenance costs and higher uterlisation.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The line was originally closed as it was being undermined in parts along the beachfront.
Now there’s part of the University development in the way I believe along with parts cut closer to Wynyard,

I very much doubt you’ll see rail west of Burnie again, the council was dead set against it.
lkernan

What does it really have to do with the council?  There is money on offer from the feds for all sorts of transport projects they would be better making an application.

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/trumping-the-pathway
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The line was originally closed as it was being undermined in parts along the beachfront.
Now there’s part of the University development in the way I believe along with parts cut closer to Wynyard,

I very much doubt you’ll see rail west of Burnie again, the council was dead set against it.

What does it really have to do with the council?  There is money on offer from the feds for all sorts of transport projects they would be better making an application.

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/trumping-the-pathway
bevans
Your article you have linked plus another directly linked article more or less says It all, the proposal ain't viable and no level of Government would support such a proposal.

To secure funding grants from the Commonwealth Government you would some pretty compelling rosy business base (along with there been valuable votes up for grabs) just a nice to have dream project ain't going to get anywhere.

Just another case of a de-flunked railway that has sat unused / unloved for more than a decade, stripped of valuable parts and fenced off In many places.
A Local Council along with local businesses and with State Government endorsement comes up with a strategy to redevelop the de-flunked railway Into a community pathway, than these wild and wooly social media based groups pop up claiming It a horrid Idea an claim the railway must be reopened and brought back to life because they say It can become a cash cow for the local region.
The former Great Northern Line North of Armidale NSW takes the cake at the moment (mostly abandoned back In the mid 1980's, no Government has been Interested In reopening the line since, going on about 34 years)
  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
When do passenger services need a business case they are public services delivered by the government for the taxpayer.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
When do passenger services need a business case they are public services delivered by the government for the taxpayer.
NSWGR8022
Always, just because they require a subsidy doesn't mean its a free for all.

Questions to be answered

- How much will it cost to get the train running?
- What would be the service type and ongoing operating costs?
- How many are expected to actually use it?
- What is the likely subsidy?
- What are the alternatives? Are they cheaper / more effective?
- Whats the net benefit to the community in providing the train?
- Are there other ways to improve the community without do the train?

The mainland capitals operate PT with subsidies of between 50 and 80c in the dollar. I think this service could only aspire to be this bad.

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